Push Pulls really are special

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 10 Sep 2002 7:11 am

Forum Friends:

Having recently purchased an Emmons Push Pull, I can confirm what many have said on this forum in the past: the tone of a push pull is something special. Now, I have to admit that my PP is a special one that some of you might recognize from these pictures:
http://www.skobrien.com/emmons/default.htm

Yes, it is the PP that Bobbe had for sale earlier this summer. And what a wonderful instrument it is. I have always loved mahagony as a tone wood, and that might be what contributes to the special tone of this PP. Of course, I'm not sure how it could sound so good considering it doesn't have any carbon fiber in it, but go figure. I can tell you that it's sound is as wide as the mighty Hudson River (approx. 3 miles measured from Croton to Haverstraw).

Now, I know that many of you are going to ask what I paid for this, and I'll give you my answer now. Bobbe made me a terrific deal and, though the price was more than I would pay for an ordinary PP, this one is unique in it's contruction and pedigree, and warrants a higher price. I'm not going to say what I paid for it, but the professional players I spoke to about it agreed that Bobbe gave me a very fair price. Let me put it this way, for what I paid for this steel, I could buy another high quality pedal steel and still be below the price of a new MSA millenium.

One thing I can't figure out, though, is why some people complain about the difficulty of tuning a push pull. I fine-tuned the raises and lowers on mine when it arrived about two months ago, and since then I've only needed to adjust the tuners from time-to-time. The pedal and knee action is smooth and quiet, and it's not nearly as heavy as I expected it would be.

Thanks all

Bob Snelgrove · Post by **Bob Snelgrove** » 10 Sep 2002 7:20 am

Yikes! Lawrence 705's on a P/P?? Isn't that like putting humbuckers on a '58 strat?

bob

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 10 Sep 2002 7:29 am

Well, I can't say if it's right or wrong. I can only say that I love the result. I like a fat tone, myself.

Marco Schouten · Post by **Marco Schouten** » 10 Sep 2002 7:43 am

It sure is a beauty. There probably isn't a second one like it. Congratulations and lots of enjoyment with it.

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Guest · Post by **Guest** » 10 Sep 2002 7:50 am

Thanks, Marco. I enjoy it everyday. I enjoy just looking at it, but playing it is even better.

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 10 Sep 2002 8:09 am

Did Bobbe add a knee lever for you? I thought that guitar was 8+2.

Beautiful wood, fer sure!

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Guest · Post by **Guest** » 10 Sep 2002 8:15 am

Yes, it does have three. And you know, I'm happy with three. I suppose if I were a better player, I would want more knee levers. But, then, if I were a better player, I might not need more levers. It's one of those conundrum thingies.

Joerg Hennig · Post by **Joerg Hennig** » 10 Sep 2002 8:21 am

This is one splendid guitar for sure, but did you say mahagony

It looks more like Birdseye maple to me, I think mahagony has a much more plain look (I owned several Gibson guitars made out of it) Anyway, congrats on that beauty!

Regards, Joe H.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 10 Sep 2002 8:25 am

Thanks for noticing, Joe. That IS birdseye you're looking at. It's a veneer of birdseye over mahogany. This steel was built for Bobbe in 1976. Bobbe can tell the story way better than I could, so I hope he will help me out here. This steel has quite a history.

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 10 Sep 2002 8:47 am

Stephen; I am so proud of you my Brother....you have come along way in a short amount of time; as you have choosen the Premier Emmons P/P out there pal.
That guitar looks absolutely Awesome and I can tell you folks that the 705 pickup is a perfect match for this Steel....if you don't have the Original pickups in it that happen to not buzz/hum....than this "IS" the perfect match.
Red'eye.....I'm looking forward to playing this one; when/if I ever get up there pal.
Good Going Brother.
Ricky

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 10 Sep 2002 8:55 am

Thanks, Ricky. But you know, I went to sleep last night thinking about how I could possibly justify (and afford) to buy your Sho-Bud! Well, I haven't figured that one out yet, and there's just 24 hours left, so I guess I'll have to pass on that one.

If anybody reading this is looking to buy the best Sho-Bud PRO II out there, buy Ricky's guitar -- Ricky will throw in his hands for free, if you ask.

Larry Bell · Post by **Larry Bell** » 10 Sep 2002 8:56 am

You DAWG!

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Guest · Post by **Guest** » 10 Sep 2002 9:03 am

ARF ARF!

KENNY KRUPNICK · Post by **KENNY KRUPNICK** » 10 Sep 2002 9:26 am

That is one beautiful Emmons. I seen it in Bobbes shop when we were ther in July.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 10 Sep 2002 9:29 am

Here's a link to pictures that bobbe had on his website, they are better quality than mine:
http://www.skobrien.com/emmons/bobbe.htm

Dan Tyack · Post by **Dan Tyack** » 10 Sep 2002 9:39 am

As a former owner of this beauty, I can just say congratulations. This is one of the nicest sounding PP guitars I ever played. The Laurence pickup is a perfect match.

In terms of tuning the thing, my experience with PP guitars is that they tend to go out of adjustment when subject to road abuse, so if your guitar is spending a lot of time in one place, it won't need a lot of attention.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 10 Sep 2002 9:49 am

Dan, I'm so glad to hear from a former owner. All I can say is, Thanks for selling it! I can guarantee that this guitar won't be abused in any way, shape, or form.

My 2-year-old son better like pedal steel, because this will be his inheritance.

jim milewski · Post by **jim milewski** » 10 Sep 2002 2:46 pm

thats more than beautiful, I had the same pickups on my p/p that guitar got sold, if anyone has one of those pickups for my p/p twelve string, I'll buy it

Nick Reed · Post by **Nick Reed** » 10 Sep 2002 3:13 pm

Stevie,
That is one beautiful Steel Guitar. I saw it at Bobbe's while they were in the process of restoring it. Love them P/P's. . . . .got 3 myself. Nick

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Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 10 Sep 2002 6:28 pm

Stephen, get some windex out quick, clean the finger prints off end castings and pick the guitar up by the front and back, not the end castings! How many times ha----------, sorry, just kidding, and I like your pictures of it better than mine. Yours show the true color, mine look to yellow. I should have cleaned the Piper paint off my lens first I 'spose.
I love the color of your Emmons better than anything Iv'e ever done. It's a classic that has to be one of the rarest and finest of the breed.
Glad you though ten thousand was a good deal too! ( ha!----) Your buddy,

Bobbe

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 10 Sep 2002 6:29 pm

It's gonna' be hard to get a millinium to look like that!!!! Plastic doesn't hold paint to well.

Kenny Forbess · Post by **Kenny Forbess** » 10 Sep 2002 8:07 pm

Might if you put veneer birds-eye over it,

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Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 10 Sep 2002 8:20 pm

Kenny, why did I find this so funny? Yes, I do feel this would work!!!!! Might make it sound good too!!

Kenny Forbess · Post by **Kenny Forbess** » 10 Sep 2002 8:57 pm

Yeah Bobbe, might make it look better too.

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 11 Sep 2002 6:12 am

Stephen,
Your need to degrade another instrument (that you have never even seen) gives your guitar an ugly look.

Bob