Shobud Superpro question

Daniel McKee · From: Corinth Mississippi

I have looked at a few of these online and they look like nice guitars but my question is do these have the pot metal parts.

Bob Blair · From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

My understanding is that they all did. But I have never played one that I didn't like.

Henry Matthews · From: Texarkana, Ark USA

Yes, Superpros do have pot metal unless they have been altered.
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Daniel McKee · From: Corinth Mississippi

So what year did shobud start using the pot metal.Did shobud use pot meatl until they closed.

Skip Edwards · From: LA,CA

They started in with the pot metal around '78, and stuck with it right up to the bitter end. With, I think, the exception being the half dozen or so Super Pro II's that they made.
My Super Pro has had the pot metal replaced and it's a screamer.

Daniel McKee · From: Corinth Mississippi

So if they didn't do pot metal until 78 then there should be some pro threes and pro twos out there without it right.Also what kind of money would it take to replace the bad parts in a pot metal guitar.

Bob Hickish · From: Port Ludlow, Washington, USA, R.I.P.

pot metal goes further back than 78 -- I have a fender / Sho-Bud from 74 -- I have had only one pot metal part brake -- I built a replacement part with a minimum of hand tools and a pice of aluminum plate -- I still play this guitar after all these years -- with no other problems .

Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

Daniel, I believe Michael Yahl sells a bunch of the parts, and perhaps James Morehead.
Rather than replace every pot metal part, I'd just get some brackets, and keep them handy.
After all, pot metal is still around because it's *usually* good enough.
Unless you really wanna be Michael's benefactor.
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Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

I would recommend changing all the knee lever brackets. They are the only parts I broke on the Super Pro I had. Especially the LKL. Your legs arcs when hitting that lever actually pushing the lever at an angle and it puts a lot of pressure on the bracket and it breaks. Just having the extras on hand doesn't help a lot. They always seem to break while you're on a gig. Change them out if you have the solid aluminum ones.
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Michael Yahl · From: Troy, Texas!

I NEED a few benfactors for the 'Bud stuff!
(Lane is my benefactor for MSA hardware..)

Bob, I have most of the replacement parts for those guitars.
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Daniel McKee · From: Corinth Mississippi

so what would be the newest shobud out there that did not have pot metal I was thinking the earliest pro 2 shobuds in 74 or so is what I had heard before but Im not sure of that.

Mark Draycott R.I.P. · From: Portland, OR

My '76 Pro II Custom has no pot metal on it. It's bone stock, all original. SN 10802
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Daniel McKee · From: Corinth Mississippi

Thats interesting a 76 without it.The reason Im looking into all this is because I really like the old shobuds but I dont want to buy one with the pot metal I have wanted a guitar that can have hold a modern setup easily and I like the shobuds so these 1970s era shobuds appeal to me but I dont want to pay a lot for something that will need work.

Henry Matthews · From: Texarkana, Ark USA

Daniel, the super pro's are great guitars and as Richard S. said above, changing the knee lever brackets is no big deal and not that costly. I had a Super Pro years ago that was great guitar and I only broke one knee during the time I had it. I actually like the mechanics better than some of the Pro models. Find one in good shape at the right price and you can't go wrong in my book.
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D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes.

Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

Unfortunately I got rid of my Super-Pro for that reason. This was before I had the internet and knew of replacement parts being available. Wish I had the guitar back now.
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Al Udeen · From: Hendersonville Tn

I had the first Super-Pro, which we introduced at the NAAM show in Chicago in 1977 [When I was with Gretsch as Sho-Bud Product Mgr], Although I never broke any knee lever brackets, I replaced them with Duane Marrs aluminum one's I also drilled small holes in the pull rods & cotter pinned them, This was to replace the rod clips to lessen the drag on the rods, I played this guitar almost every weekend for 16 yrs, This was an awesome sounding wood neck guitar, All models beginning in 77 were the shorter cabinet models! Regards! Al Udeen

Daniel McKee · From: Corinth Mississippi

Thanks for the help to everyone on this subject.so is there any pro 3 shobuds without pot metal.

Kevin Mincke · From: Farmington, MN (Twin Cities-South Metro) USA

I have a 1976 Pro III with no under carriage pot metal, fingers are however.

Daniel McKee · From: Corinth Mississippi

So probably no super pros without it but I might find a pro three or pro2.

Jon Hyde · From: Seattle, Washington, USA

I have a 76 LDG with no pot metal on the undercarriage but it came with pot metal fingers. Sounded great and played great too but I replaced the fingers with aluminum ones that Duane Marrs made me. Still sounds and plays great... If you're looking for one, the way you tell is the aluminum fingers have a pin for the string to sit on, the pot metal ones have slots for the strings. I've owned a couple with pot metal parts and they played and sounded fine to me, they just wear out faster I think...

John Swain · From: Winchester, Va

It's easy to spot the pot metal (SuperPro) under-carriage, they all have hexagonal cross-shafts. I had a new SuperPro made in 1980, broke LKL that year. I bought some spare parts from ShoBud but never broke another in 23 years!..JS

Daniel McKee · From: Corinth Mississippi

So do the superpro guitars have pot metal fingers or just knee lever parts.

Skip Edwards · From: LA,CA

If the strings attach with slots, it's pot metal. I also have Duane Marrs' fingers on my SP, and the strings attach with pins.

The SuperPro was not really Sho-Buds finest hour...but with some tweaking and replacing of some of the parts, it really can be a fine gtr.

Daniel McKee · From: Corinth Mississippi

Ok I will keep all this in mind as I am looking at shobuds

Chris LeDrew · From: Canada

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