Al Petty's 21 heel and toe pedal copedant
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Al Petty's 21 heel and toe pedal copedant
The paper that contained this was larger than my scanner's bed, so I scanned it in sections.
Here is the top neck, which as you can see is an E9/B6 universal tuning.
Here is the back neck with the tuning Al invented.
And here are his notes regarding the knee levers.
Here is the top neck, which as you can see is an E9/B6 universal tuning.
Here is the back neck with the tuning Al invented.
And here are his notes regarding the knee levers.
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Mike - I have his complete setup chart from 1986 when he had contacted me about making him a Whitney. Send me a private email with your snail-mail address and I'll send a copy made from the original your way. It has some hand-written notes on it also.
Al used the heel/toe concept on several guitars over the years including a Fender cable-drive. Sierra Guitars even made a heel/toe model back in 1980 or 1981 with 6 pedals and no KL's and displayed it at Scotty's that year.
It's probably not for everyone, but I've always felt that the heel/toe concept was never explored deeply enough in years past. Al sure made it work for him...that and his near-perfect right-hand technique.
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Al used the heel/toe concept on several guitars over the years including a Fender cable-drive. Sierra Guitars even made a heel/toe model back in 1980 or 1981 with 6 pedals and no KL's and displayed it at Scotty's that year.
It's probably not for everyone, but I've always felt that the heel/toe concept was never explored deeply enough in years past. Al sure made it work for him...that and his near-perfect right-hand technique.
PRR
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I was lucky enough to attend Al's show and seminar at Blackie Taylor's music in the early eighties when Al was representing Sierra Steel Guitars. He had basically the same setup that Mike P. put on here with the E9/B6 Uni on the outside neck, and his own personal tuning on the inside neck. Earnest B. noted that it seemed "odd" with the wide intervals in that tuning in the lower registars. Al mentioned that and demonstrated it that day. The reasoning was for "cleaner" chord work as the chords wouldn't "muddy up" as much down there when you did that. I believe Hal Rugg also did something similar with his inside neck.........JH in Va.
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I was at that same show Jerry. That's where I got the photocopy of the copedant. Al was giving them out.
Shortly afterward, I saw the Sierra S-10 with 6 pedals, (toe and heel) and no knee levers, that Paul mentioned. It was on display at Blackie's shop. I tried it out, but didn't like it.
Shortly afterward, I saw the Sierra S-10 with 6 pedals, (toe and heel) and no knee levers, that Paul mentioned. It was on display at Blackie's shop. I tried it out, but didn't like it.
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I was following the other thread for a bit, and it's pretty clear that the heel-toe stuff would only work well with the right kind of seat. You'd need some kind of chair or bench that supports your thigh so that your leg was dangling right over the pedal, your left foot never touches the floor. Church organists have been doing it for centuries, there's doubtless a website for churchorgan.com or cuddle-buns.com or something.
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David, that's exactly what Al used, a higher seat that supported his legs and allowed him to "dangle" them over the pedals to be able to activate with both his heel and toe. He always was an inovator and has some ideas that others hadn't thought of. Gene Fields of GFI worked with Al on his old Fender 1000 with the heel and toe pedals. Gene also had one for a time. I used to go see Al perform with his group at the "Breakers Hotel" in downtown Long Beach, Ca. in the sixties. His drummer (Al Brown) was a good friend of mine and he turned me on to Al's playing. He had a trio then consisting of him, Al Brown on drums and Joe Pope on piano with a keyboard bass sitting on top of it. Joe Pope was also blind though you'd never know it. They had the first "power trio" I'd ever seen...........JH in Va.
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Al Petty Guitar
I have one of Al Petty's guitars. I communicated with Al over a year or two, and even visited him in Overton during the 80s. I was interested in the use of the steel guitar as a midi controller (basically that is all the Steel Guitorchestra is), and no one knew more about it at the time than Al. Al had a lot of fascinating stories about his California days, particularly stories about trying to figure out how to tune the early pedal guitars. At the time he was using the Steel Guitorchestra to make recordings for others (I have a couple of examples somewhere), but, always hurting for money, he was also dabbling in several multi-level marketing schemes. I think it was those activities that eventually led to his problems. I bought a number of things from Al, including a 21 pedal Sierra S-12. I do not know why I bought it-it has sat unplayed since-except that it was my way of trying to help him out a bit financially. I probably hoped that eventually he would want it back, but that never happened. I really ought to think about getting rid of it. I do not know of anyone else who has pursued a heel/toe type of playing, although Al manipulated it masterfully. Worst case, I suppose it could fairly easily be returned to a more conventional guitar.
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Doug, would you be willing to post some photos of that guitar? I think many of us would find it fascinating to see up close...dlaurice wrote:I bought a number of things from Al, including a 21 pedal Sierra S-12...
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When I was working at the Golden Nugget in 1971, Al and his group were playing at the Mint, across Fremont St. I'd go visit and watch him play his Fender with the heel-toe setup, but I don't remember if it was a 1000 or a 2000. But he did sit on a very high stool when playing that beast.
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