A New Toy I Got Today

Brad Malone · Post by **Brad Malone** » 24 Jun 2012 5:33 pm

Mitch, I'll give them a call at 1-800-344-8854 tomorrow..thanks for the information..yeah $62 is a bit high but quality means a lot.

Brad Malone · Post by **Brad Malone** » 25 Jun 2012 3:22 pm

I called Tuki today and found out that they have two style covers available for the Roland Cube 80XL Guitar Amp...the padded covers are $62 plus shipping and the Vinyl covers are $39, plus shipping. Tuki custom makes these covers for your order.

Brad Malone · Post by **Brad Malone** » 29 Jun 2012 6:49 am

I received my Roland Cube 80XL amp cover from Tuki today. It is a perfect fit and the quality of the cover is first class..now the amp is ready to travel.

Ken Byng · Post by **Ken Byng** » 29 Jun 2012 7:04 am

Brad
I got a padded cover from a UK manufacturer for my 80XL amp a while back. Well worth spending out a bit on a decent cover or case to look your amp and keep it from getting damaged in transit.

Mitch Adelman · Post by **Mitch Adelman** » 29 Jun 2012 7:47 am

Got my Tuki cover too today! Was sent fed ex and arrived quickly. Perfect fit. Now the cube is in a plush and safe cover. Tuki's are great amp covers and worth it.

Ray Kedge · Post by **Ray Kedge** » 29 Jun 2012 3:13 pm

Looks like there's gonna be a few NV 112's on the market including mine if it's that good.Only seen demo's of Rock players slammin out Metal riffs out of it. Want to see how the amp handles a steel before I part with the hard earned.

Ken Byng · Post by **Ken Byng** » 29 Jun 2012 11:25 pm

Ray, for those people who have NV112's and are happy with them there is no real reason for them to look elsewhere. However, for those players who are looking at buying a small compact amp for rehearsing or for small gigs then it is well worth while auditioning the 80XL. It has a recording line out that can be used to go through a PA too. Pricewise it is incredible value, especially for those people who double up on steel and lead guitar.

When Micky first told me he was thinking of buying the Roland I told him he might be best advised to try one out in a music store first with his steel. I said I was over the moon with mine. He just took a flyer and bought one on spec and was delighted with it. You are right Ray - best to try out any amp first if possible to see if it suits your needs.

Brad Malone · Post by **Brad Malone** » 30 Jun 2012 6:15 am

Ray,
when Ken and Micky posted about the Roland Cube 80 XL I just went ahead and got one from AMS..it is one of the best things I ever did...IMHO the Roland Cube 80XL is far better that the Nashville 112. Besides giving you better tone, it gives you on board effects that are lacking on the 112. Ray, it does not have to be one or the other, one can have both amps..the Roland is just more fun because of the effects that come with it..you will love the delay and plate reverb effects...I also love the "Black Panel" setting as it reminds me of the Fender-Twin sound. Hope you try out the 80XL and let us know what you think..since getting this amp I find myself playing more because it is just more fun..I still do not know how they got all this stuff in a 36 pound amp...like Ken says it is perfect for small clubs and home practice...BTW, I still have my 112 and Nashville 1000...I like to have more than one tool in my box.

John Davis · Post by **John Davis** » 30 Jun 2012 10:44 am

Well mine arrived today coul`ent wait to get the box open.... and yep its everything they said about it so far, ( in the front room ) Tomoz I will take it to rehearsal in the church hall and see what its got

Just popped on here to check out Micky`s settings.....
one thing I have found is if you find a sweet sound on it then take the line out and put it through a nice old twin reverb you seem to get the best of both worlds

Brad Malone · Post by **Brad Malone** » 30 Jun 2012 3:52 pm

Tomorrow I will take it to rehearsal in the church hall and see what its got<<

John Davis, Please let us know how the 80XL performed in church.
Brad

Ken Byng · Post by **Ken Byng** » 1 Jul 2012 12:01 am

I did an open air gig last night and ran both my Bradshaw Webb and Roland from my Telonics volume pedal via my Emmons Push Pull guitar. The 80XL was set with the master volume at three quarters maximum. The Webb is an astounding amp and mine is equipped with a BW speaker. I don't know what the speaker is in the Roland but it didn't even start to break up when pushed and easily held its own with the BW.

All I can say is that I had the best live sound I have ever had last night. I have had my Roland for quite a while now and for pubs and small clubs it is excellent on its own. The reverb is just incredible. I may well get another 80XL as a backup or if I need to run 2 at the same time.

Brad Malone · Post by **Brad Malone** » 1 Jul 2012 5:32 am

All I can say is that I had the best live sound I have ever had last night. I have had my Roland for quite a while now and for pubs and small clubs it is excellent on its own. The reverb is just incredible. I may well get another 80XL as a backup or if I need to run 2 at the same time.<<

Ken B. Great news, It would make perfect sense to have two 80XL's ..a lot less weight..never carry a bigger tool than the job requires.

John Davis · Post by **John Davis** » 1 Jul 2012 9:38 am

never carry a bigger tool than the job requires.

Good advice Brad but I never fancied the surgery ...

Well I tried it out in the church hall and the thing is seriously loud, I found it went a little bit "Honky" when I really pushed it on the JC clean setting but on the Blackface it was clean and true way past anything I would need to use.....
I realise putting the extra E120 on it will not make it louder but it gives the option to spread the sound and that I like but for a smaller venue I would say the amp is adequate on its own.... I surely don`t need two just a top quality ex. speaker...

John Davis · Post by **John Davis** » 1 Jul 2012 9:42 am

Ken Byng · Post by **Ken Byng** » 1 Jul 2012 11:12 am

John
Have you had a chance to A/B the Roland speaker with your JBL to see how it stands up? I find the Roland speaker has a really wide frequency response and handles the bass strings on C6 with clarity and detail, and the higher strings have a real sparkle.

I couldn't believe how well the 12" Roland speaker stood up with the 15" Black Widow in my set up when I doubled up the 80XL with my Webb.

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We have to realise that the Roland guitar amps are always going to be good value for money because of the sheer number of sales that their amps generate world-wide as they have a much wider market place than the specialist steel guitar market. Certainly having a mechanical spring reverb in an amp these days is now outmoded.

John Davis · Post by **John Davis** » 1 Jul 2012 12:04 pm

Ken ,I have never found a better speaker than the JBL E120 it loves to work and can handle 300 watts in the proper enclosed cab and it sparkles for our instrument.. only prob is the weight, its 20LBs without the box..imagine the weight of my twin with two of them in there!! but with the advent of this latest cube I am quite optimistic and chuffed that it can take an ext.cab...
The speaker in the cube is very very good but IMHO. nothing beats an E120 but they seem to work very well together.... and no back probs...

Brad Malone · Post by **Brad Malone** » 1 Jul 2012 1:13 pm

John D. or Ken B..Will plugging in an external speaker destroy the tone of the amp or load the amp down?... and what brand of external speaker do you recommend.

Ken Byng · Post by **Ken Byng** » 1 Jul 2012 1:16 pm

I had a Twin with 2 x E120's in it John. The sound for both steel and lead was wonderful, but the weight was just crippling. The combination of Fender Twin and ZB D10 actually did the suspension in on one of my cars!!

I just wish that amps like the Roland were around 30 or 40 years back. My spine and ticker would be in better shape than they are now.

John Davis · Post by **John Davis** » 1 Jul 2012 1:48 pm

Brad I know nothing about electronics or the inside of my new toy but it says you can put another 8 ohms in the back so thats what its gonna get from me..

it does not cut out the amps speaker when I plug the extension in both speakers are working fine together but the E120 has the edge on it....awesome sound...
Heres something I stole from another forum for you..

SarasotaSlim
12-13-2009, 09:30 AM
Not entirely accurate here.

The voice coil gaps in the D120F, K120 and E120 are all the same... .057"

The E-Series has a higher flux density in the gap of 1.35T(13,500 gauss) due to the more powerful ceramic magnet that replaced the Alnico from the D/K Series which is 1.2T(12,000 gauss) . The E-Series is about 2dB more sensitive.

While some might prefer the D120F's treated paper surround and it's associated cone breakup, the K/E series "m-roll" surround yields better low frequency response and mechanical power handling as well as the ability to be a cleaner more versitile performer.

Every player that I've reconed an original D120F with the E120 recone kit has been thrilled with the results. Basically, it's upgraded to a K120 with E120 power handling. Some guys have been intimidated by the beastly sensitivity of the E120...and the extra weight...but some have gotten used to it and other's love it from the start. It can replace multiple 12's of a lesser pedigree....and do it without complaint for....well...decades of service. What's not to love? Turn the treble down a few notches and the high end can be tamed. Power rating is 300 watts pink noise in sealed/vented enclosure. 150 watts in open back.

Let's bump this one 'cause edgewound brings up some good points here.

One more point that is rarely mentioned regarding the db rating on speakers is that every 3 db increase will be TWICE AS LOUD!. Therefore the JBL E120 with it's 103 db output will walk all over almost every other speaker made. If I remember right it has the highest db rating of any of the usual guitar speaker choices. Yes - the E120 recone kit is a win - win for a D120.

That guy tells it better than I could...
Ken, The beauty of this rig is only needing the one extra.. its like having a head and speaker cab neither of them too hard to lift...

Brad Malone · Post by **Brad Malone** » 1 Jul 2012 3:29 pm

John D., Thank you very much for the information..glad you like your Roland Cube 80XL

Roger Francis · Post by **Roger Francis** » 1 Jul 2012 7:02 pm

John D it says you can use an 8 ohm or less, I've hooked up a 1203-4 to mine and it sounds great

Ken Byng · Post by **Ken Byng** » 1 Jul 2012 11:40 pm

Just as an aside, my Fender Twin had D120's in it originally. I had 4 blow their cones in 12 months. I was advised to try the K series as replacements, but the tone was really brittle compared to the D series. They came straight out. Then ESE in the UK reconed the speakers using the E series kit. I found the tone not quite as good as the D120's, but much better than the K120's I tried. I think the D120 and D130 were fabulous speakers, but quite simply they were not robust enough for the rigours of pedal steel in a loud country band.

Jeremy Steele · Post by **Jeremy Steele** » 2 Jul 2012 5:28 am

I played an outdoor gig this past weekend, using my Cube 80XL with an additional JBL D-130F in an open backed enclosure. Not only did I have no trouble keeping up with the two guitarists (each using 100 watt Boogies), the tone I got out of my rig was spectacular...I'm very impressed with the Roland amp.

Brad Malone · Post by **Brad Malone** » 2 Jul 2012 7:26 am

John D it says you can use an 8 ohm or less, I've hooked up a 1203-4 to mine and it sounds great<<

Yes, it looks like the external speaker is hooked up in series, so by limiting the external speaker to 8 ohms one does not load down the electronics..I guess the amps' speaker is also 8 ohms but I did not see the ohmage in the specks. I'm guessing one has to turn the volume up a little more to drive both speakers.

Micky Byrne · Post by **Micky Byrne** » 2 Jul 2012 11:59 am

Now that I started this thread, I have a question.

Should I need to, can I use it connected to a 15inch B/W with a Neo? The B/W is a 4 ohm speaker, but when I received the Neo it said 8 ohms on the back...but isn't it the Basket that rates the Ohms? In the manual it says to connect to 8 Ohms or less, and minimum of 80 watts. Over to you guys

Micky Byrne U.K.

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