Is this Pete Drake's work on this album?

Marcus Provis · From: Christchurch, New Zealand

I came across this recording on You Tube which featured the (gospel) Kingsmen Quartet on one of their Albums from 1968. There is some steel playing on the album, and I wondered if any one would recognize the playing style. I thought it sounded a little like Pete Drake...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04y4o_KDVNs

Just curious is all... Winking

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Clyde Mattocks · From: Kinston, North Carolina, USA

I'd be almost sure it's not Pete. First guess would be Hal Rugg.
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chris ivey · From: california (deceased)

i think they had a player in the group. i listened to them alot. great group and very funny! also wonderful high tenor.

Bill Ford · From: Graniteville SC Aiken

Sounds sorta like Weldon in his early days with Connie Smith.

Bill
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Marcus Provis · From: Christchurch, New Zealand

Thanks for your interesting input guys!
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Dan Tyack · From: Olympia, WA USA

Not Pete Drake, although some of the volume pedal work is evocative of Pete. I could believe Weldon or Hal.

Donny Hinson · From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.

I think it sounds more like early Dicky Overby. Neither Myrick nor Rugg ever used those "sneaking in" volume pedal swells, especially in the late '60s. Those guys were much more "in your face" type players back then.

Of course, no big-name player (that is still around from that era) would use the same tone and expression that they used back in the '60s. Times change, tastes change, and equipment changes. Like the heavy, damp-reverb surf music sounds that faded completely away, so too did the bright, sharp, pedal steel tones that were so popular in the '60s. Despite the amazing virtuosity in some of today's players, their tones just don't "jump out at you" the way that they used to with many players back then. Sad

Dale Hampton · From: Missouri, USA

Of course, no big-name player (that is still around from that era) would use the same tone and expression that they used back in the '60s. Times change, tastes change, and equipment changes. Donny ,I believe you are right, but I would give any thing if I could sound like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr8cynrrJH0

Marcus Provis · From: Christchurch, New Zealand

Thank you for your feedback guys,it was the volume pedal work on the recording that originally got me thinking it was like Pete. Being still quite new to steel, I am learning a lot from reading your responses about the different players from that era.
I looked up Dicky Overbey on youtube as I hadn't heard him before. He has a great sound.
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Dennis Atkins · From: St. Paul, Minnesota

I checked wikipedia for a listing of the steel players for the Kingsmen Quartet, and they list the following members:

Eddie Trent 1971 to 1973
Gary Dillard 1974 to 1980 and 1983 to 1993
Sam Crowe 1980 t0 1983.

No other steel player is listed after 1993.

Hopes this clears up some of the debate.

Dennis

Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

Not really, Dennis. Are those players that were in their bands, or players on their records? They are not necessarily the same.
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Dennis Atkins · From: St. Paul, Minnesota

Richard, I would say that because of the years that were listed, this would indicate band members, and not recording players. I am sure that it could be either, but Wikipedia listed all the BAND members, and not session musicians on the records.

Unless someone has a listing of all of their recordings, and who played on them we may not have a definitive answer.

This is just what I found from my search.

Dennis

Joachim Kettner · From: Germany

Maybe they can provide some information, if anybody wants to contact them:

http://rateyourmusic.com/label/heart_warming_records
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Hook Moore · From: South Charleston,West Virginia

The Kingsmen Quartet were just beginning to hit their stride at that point, I doubt the player was any of the big guns mentioned.
Eddie Trent was doing some sessions around Kingsport Tn. about that time, He may be as good a guess as any.
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Marcus Provis · From: Christchurch, New Zealand

Thanks for all your responses guys, it has been very interesting reading them.

Marcus
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Jason Odd · From: Stawell, Victoria, Australia

I might point out that the steel players listed all worked with the group well after the album was recorded. Back to the guessing game... (although all educated guesses from what I can see).

Sometimes the label and producer can indicate who was more likely to be the steel player, smaller labels often had house players who were not the A-team guys, and if it wasn't cut in Nashville, well you have a whole 'nother set of considerations to take into effect.

J.
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