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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 17 Apr 2012 3:29 pm |
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I know they have an oddball pull system thats not all that easy to set up for the uninitiated.. However, what about the changer itself??.. Is it a straightforward design that could work with a more modern, more user friendly crosshaft/bell crank/pull rod system?.. Is it a double raise/ lowers\??? bob
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Tracy Sheehan
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Fort Worth, Texas, USA
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Posted 17 Apr 2012 5:02 pm Re:
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| Yes it works the same. Had my ZB changed over to cross rods back in the early 70s. Tracy |
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Tony Glassman
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The Great Northwest
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Posted 17 Apr 2012 5:49 pm Re:
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| Tracy Sheehan wrote: |
| Yes it works the same. Had my ZB changed over to cross rods back in the early 70s. Tracy |
Love to see pix |
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John De Maille
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On a Mountain in Upstate Halcottsville, N.Y.
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Posted 17 Apr 2012 6:13 pm
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Bob,
It's basically the same changer, that's in my all pull RusLer except my RusLer has cross rods and bell cranks. It's a double raise, double lower changer. Very easy to change copedant set ups. I believe I've seen one or two ZB's that were converted, but, I can't remember where. You might want to contact Tom Bradshaw. He might have an answer or two for you. |
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 17 Apr 2012 7:50 pm
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| There is a significant difference. One is vertical fingers, the ZB is lateral. The top half IS the same. Don't even think about trying to change it to bellcrank with the original changer. The original pull rods hook into the changer with specialized bike spoke knipples. By the way, I own all the last remaining Rusler changer stock, which is what we use in the new Retro ZB's. www.retrosteelguitar.net |
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 17 Apr 2012 8:53 pm
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Brendan Mitchell
From:
Melbourne Australia
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Posted 17 Apr 2012 10:47 pm
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| Hey Richard is that a changer you made youself ? Nice work if it is . |
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 18 Apr 2012 3:32 am
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| Bob, if you are interested in one of the new ZB Retros with quick change bellcrank mechanics email me for photos and a price. I have a demo in red mahogony with inlaid necks that I can let go for a wow price. It has 3&5 (vertical 5th lower), and our Accutune second string posi-stop half/full tone lower plunger. Killer sounding ZB Retro. |
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John De Maille
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On a Mountain in Upstate Halcottsville, N.Y.
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Posted 18 Apr 2012 11:42 am
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Kevin,
Thank you, I stand corrected! Ans yes, from the top they do look similar. I never looked at the whole changer. ZB's sure were a different mechanism.
I can only imagine, that, your new ( re-worked ) ZB's sound really great. |
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Dave Zirbel
From:
Sebastopol, CA USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2012 6:00 pm
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The Kline uses cross shafts and the changer works the same as a ZB. Check out the photos:
http://www.julianwinston.com/music/the_kline_guitar.php
I own two ZBs and a Kline. The Kline is a more precise and plays better than most guitars I've played. You can use cross shafts on a ZB but still need to use the "yoke" or "equalizer tree".
I've thought about setting up my S-10 ZB with some Kline parts. 
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steve takacs
From:
beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 20 Apr 2012 9:36 am Kline set-up on ZB
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| Dave, luckily, Paul Redmond is doing that very thing on my ZB D-10; setting i up in a Kline manner. steve t |
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Dave Zirbel
From:
Sebastopol, CA USA
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Posted 20 Apr 2012 4:35 pm
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Let me know when the results are in! 
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Sierra S-10 (Built by Ross Shafer),ZB, Fender 400 guitars, various tube and SS amps |
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