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Topic: Buddy Charleton and the old ShoBuds |
Joerg Hennig
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Bavaria, Germany
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Posted 2 Jun 2002 7:35 am |
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In the booklets that accompany the Bear Family box sets about Ernest Tubb and the Texas Troubadours, Volume 4 and 5, there are two pictures from concerts on pages 43 and 16, respectively, that show Buddy Charleton with what looks like one of the old ShoBud Permanents. You can clearly see that it had two knee levers, one on the left and one on the right. One of them might have been the standard ShoBud lever that lowered strings 2 and 8 on the E9 neck, but what did the other one do? Sure it was not E to F since that change had not been invented yet in those days. Does anybody have an idea?
Regards, Joe H. |
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Jerry Roller
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Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 2 Jun 2002 8:54 am
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Joe, the first knee lever I was ever aware of and the first one I put on my guitar was lowering the 8th string E to Eb or it may have been D9th tuning lowering the D to Db.
When "Another Bridge To Burn" was released it had that change in the solo. Before I put the lever on I would tune that string down 1/2 tone when we were doing "Another Bridge" and avoid that string except for the part that required it to lower. I think Buddy Charleton would have had that lever. After rereading your question it occurred to me that if the guitar you refer to was an 8 string per neck then we are probably talking about the same lever.
Jerry
[This message was edited by Jerry Roller on 02 June 2002 at 10:04 AM.] |
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Steve Feldman
From:
Central MA USA
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Posted 2 Jun 2002 8:56 am
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Can't help that much, Joe, but he's clearly making a heckuva lot of use out of the 8 stg. lower. I just got the set called 'Waltz Across Texas' ~3 weeks ago and I haven't listened to anything at home or in my truck since. INCREDIBLE playing that just blows me away more every time I listen.
How's the other set -'Another Story'? |
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Al Miller
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Waxahachie Texas
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Posted 2 Jun 2002 10:13 am
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joe!!
e-mail me and i will give you buddys shop # and e-mail adress then you can ask him yourself im sure he knows huh? 
BOO |
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Joerg Hennig
From:
Bavaria, Germany
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Posted 2 Jun 2002 10:24 am
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Jerry, I´m sure the guitar on the picture is a 10 string per neck. Looks like the top-of-the line ShoBud of those days. I was talking about the lever that lowered string 8 E to Eb and string 2 D# to D. You can also hear Buddy use the chromatic strings a lot on many of those tracks.
Steve, "Another Story" is also very worth listening to. It features several cool instrumentals like "Honey Fingers", "Cool It", "Take That" "Gardenia Waltz", two more -lesser known - albums with Loretta, one album where Ernest Tubb sings Hank Williams -those tracks have some of the most beautiful steel backup ever, and much more. Since Leon Rhodes left the band in 1966, there are several other guitar players - for instance Steve Chapman, Jack Molette and Billy Byrd; while all of them were good, the guitar-steel interplay was never quite the same after Leon left. The last tracks from 1974-75 have Don Helms and Lynn Owsley on steel. |
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Al Miller
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Waxahachie Texas
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Posted 2 Jun 2002 7:41 pm
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" QUOTE"
some of the most beautiful steel back up ever!!!!!!!!!
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HELL!!its buddy charlton did you expect less
HE IS THE MAN!!!!!
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 4 May 2009 4:46 pm
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| he had a nice shobud it looked like a fingertip inthe youtube videos and it had a great sound to did he ever do any solo albums. |
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David Nugent
From:
Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 5 May 2009 2:48 am Buddy C
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| Buddy has a few solo recordings ("Playing Silk" is my personal favorite) as well as some he has recorded with Billy Cooper (tab and rhythm tracks available for these) that are sold through Billy's shop where Buddy also teaches steel guitar. Also, the Ernest Tubb Record Shop has DVD's of some of ET's TV shows from the '60's and as previously stated, the interplay between Buddy and Leon Rhodes featured on some of these is worth the price alone. |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 5 May 2009 3:01 am
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Joe, I suspect that if he had two levers, only one might have worked on each neck.  |
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Frank Parish
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Nashville,Tn. USA
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Posted 5 May 2009 5:02 am
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| The era of Leon Rhodes and Buddy Charleton would be my favorite for that band and Buddys tone was superb. I'm guessing he would have used a Fender tube amp but does anyone here really know? Also does anybody here know which set has the best instrumentals they played on? |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 5 May 2009 3:58 pm
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Okay, I just looked it up in my old Sho~Bud book. Charleton had 2 levers in the early '60s. One lowered both "E" strings (on E9th), and the other (on C6th) lowered the (3rd) "C" string to "B".
Edited: Thanks to Jim for fixing my syntax error! 
Last edited by Donny Hinson on 6 May 2009 8:07 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Bobby Bowman
From:
Cypress, Texas, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 5 May 2009 7:49 pm amp?
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I'm pretty sure Buddy C played a Standel.
BB
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