Pic of undercarriage of carter starter
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- John Shadid
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Pic of undercarriage of carter starter
I noticed there seems to be a LOT of complaints about the Carter Starter. I would appreciate it if someone would post a pic of the undercarriage of one so I could see what everyone is talking about!
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Believe it,I've seen one,Erv is right,it's not a pretty sight!!!!
Although I did rebuild the undercarriage on the one I had,it was worth it I think but I didn't keep it very long.They do have great tone.
Although I did rebuild the undercarriage on the one I had,it was worth it I think but I didn't keep it very long.They do have great tone.
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http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... er+starter There are a couple of shots in this old thread if that will help.
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John, here is a photo of the under carriage on a Carter Starter:
Not too much to see there. It is just the guts of a plain old student guitar. IMO, there is FAR too much Carter-Starter bashing on this forum. Sure, some things could have been done better, but it was never intended as pro instrument. I hope this helps to satisfy your curiosity.
Not too much to see there. It is just the guts of a plain old student guitar. IMO, there is FAR too much Carter-Starter bashing on this forum. Sure, some things could have been done better, but it was never intended as pro instrument. I hope this helps to satisfy your curiosity.
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I am no pro. I am a novice Carter Starter player and I appreciate all the support I can get. I ain't no musical genius. I have to work at it hard to get anywhere with any instrument. In grade school I played an old beat up tombone with a crappy slide, but it got me to 1st chair out of 13 players by the time I got into high school band in the 9th grade! Then I got a new one! I have been playing a Morgan Monroe reso lately. Certainly not top of the line, but with lots of practice....heck, I'm having fun and the grandkids love it! My Carter Starter? I bet that I can learn on that too... enough to entertain me and my grandkids. With lot of hard work, and if I get get good enough, I will upgrade for sure! Can't wait!! I love pedal steel!!!!!!!!! Now, if I spent thousands of dollars on a high end dobro and pedal steel, will I instantly sound like Greg Booth does with his Wichita Lineman rendition? NOT!! Good grief, that guy is good! Hmm....think I will sit up to my 'lil "starter", pop in a CD and see if I can jam.....
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Haha now ladies, you're both pretty! Thanks for the pic and link. I started off on an old 60s or 70s fender s-10 student model with 1 knee lever. I never looked underneath much but I know it wasn't nice as the starter. Paid 700 plus shipping for the damn thing too! Strangely wish I had kept it though..
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I had a student, who, had a brand new Carter Starter and I thought it played really well. Of course, that was about 12 yrs ago, though. Even so, I had never seen one or played one before and I was impressed with it. Yes, it was a little too lite, but, everything worked perfectly on it and it sounded good, too. For its' time, it was a real innovative student model. Maybe he was lucky with that steel. I don't know. I haven't seen any others up close, so, I can't really judge the rest. Just a simple, straight forward approach to an entry level steel. I started on a birdseye maple Maverick with the raised neck. It was a good steel for its' time, too. I had no problems with mine, but, we're not talking Mavericks here.
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Carter Starter- they work, stay close to in tune, sound good enough to practice or gig, and have the levers for a full modern copedent. And they're inexpensive. Exactly what they were designed to do.
There are a couple of frustrating aspects (like knee lever slippage) that are really easy to fix with basic tools and a little thought.
My impression is that most of the bashers really expect the performance, feel and sound of a $3K guitar.
I just don't understand that.
The CS has probably brought thousands of players into the fold who might not have otherwise made it. Go Carter.
There are a couple of frustrating aspects (like knee lever slippage) that are really easy to fix with basic tools and a little thought.
My impression is that most of the bashers really expect the performance, feel and sound of a $3K guitar.
I just don't understand that.
The CS has probably brought thousands of players into the fold who might not have otherwise made it. Go Carter.
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I think the worst thing under there is the stops. Particularly on the knee levers. But it's not hard to put in better ones. A bracket that the bell crank finger bears against will do the trick. Tap a hole in the bracket and put a hex-head screw through it if you want it adjustable.
I think there may be two versions of the CS. Mine has the knee levers in a different place than most of the pics I've seen online.
I am the proud owner of the two most maligned pedal steels: a Carter Starer and a contact-paper Maverick. (I'm really a non-pedal player who just can't resist a bargain on craigslist.) Aside from those stops, the Carter seems much better-engineered.
I think there may be two versions of the CS. Mine has the knee levers in a different place than most of the pics I've seen online.
I am the proud owner of the two most maligned pedal steels: a Carter Starer and a contact-paper Maverick. (I'm really a non-pedal player who just can't resist a bargain on craigslist.) Aside from those stops, the Carter seems much better-engineered.
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I had a Maverick, and it was the worst junk I ever bought. Baling wire instead of rods, screen door turnbuckles to tune the pedals- then the fingers started breaking off.. Bad news.
The CS is light years ahead of the Maverick I owned. I couldn't get rid of it fast enough. It was frustrating enough to make a grown man scream.. and scream I did..
The CS is light years ahead of the Maverick I owned. I couldn't get rid of it fast enough. It was frustrating enough to make a grown man scream.. and scream I did..
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You haven't lived until you played a Market-Rite S-10.
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