Volume pedal recomendation for Carter starter

Kevin Lichtsinn · Post by **Kevin Lichtsinn** » 1 Apr 2012 2:38 pm

I have a Carter starter (cost me $350) and I was wondering what you others would recommend for a volume pedal for it. I have Boss pedal and it works, but it is unusable because I don't have room for my legs!! Thanks in advance. I really appreciate the help. I am having a blast with it!!!!

Ransom Beers · Post by **Ransom Beers** » 1 Apr 2012 2:47 pm

Lot of guys use & recommend the Hilton VP,I myself have a Goodrich H10K that I converted to a passive pot pedal.The little circuit brd. that was in it went belly up so I just bypassed it,works great,some even use an Ernie Ball VP,I wouldn't recommend it because of the height.I'm sure some of the other players will recommend something they use or like.

Jim Curtain · Post by **Jim Curtain** » 1 Apr 2012 5:17 pm

I am using a Morley Optical with my Carter Starter, very pleased with the results.

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 1 Apr 2012 9:46 pm

There's a Goodrich low profile

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 2 Apr 2012 6:28 am

For a Carter Starter, I would maybe recommend one from an Edsel.

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 2 Apr 2012 6:33 am

Erv, be nice. Think of the Carter Starter as a gateway drug.

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 2 Apr 2012 7:31 am

Me bad

Ryan Knudson · Post by **Ryan Knudson** » 2 Apr 2012 7:59 am

Kevin,

I sent you a PM.

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 2 Apr 2012 8:41 am

get a good used Goodrich 120 Kevin
http://www.steelguitar.net/volpedal11.html
the low profil model (120L) is for the long legged/tall steelers
they do pop up in the for sale sektion
otherwise, get a hold of Jerry Roller on my behalf
he'll set you up
rollermusic"AT"cox.net>

Tim Herbert · Post by **Tim Herbert** » 2 Apr 2012 10:55 am

Kevin, you got a good price on the Starter (and believe me, a lot of us got started on that guitar), so if you plan to stay with the PSG I'd suggest investing wisely in a good volume pedal - you won't regret it, and it will save a lot of frustration. Goodrich, Hilton, and (for the financially less-challenged) Telonics are popular models, for very good reasons. Here are some links so you can compare (although if you can actually test drive them, that's by far the best option - the "feel" is important):

http://www.tonetronix.com/c/Goodrich-Vo ... edals.html
(I don't think Goodrich has a company website of their own)

http://www.hiltonelectronics.com/

http://www.telonics.com/index.php

Hope this helps!

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 2 Apr 2012 11:03 am

I don't think it makes a lot of sense to pay more for a volume pedal than the guitar.

Ransom Beers · Post by **Ransom Beers** » 2 Apr 2012 11:10 am

Prolly true .....but if he decides to upgrade the guitar a decent VP is already there & he need not purchase one,however if that is going to be his one & only guitar then I would have to agree,not worth investing a lot in a VP if you're only gonna plunk around home with no intention of upgrading.

Post by **Dave Mudgett** » 2 Apr 2012 11:25 am

I basically agree with Erv's last post, but if you just need a little bit of extra clearance for your legs, a low-profile Goodrich 120 (L-120) might work. Used examples can sometimes be had reasonably. You also might be able to lift the back legs up a bit. Together, they may get you enough clearance.

But have you thought about raising the instrument? I think Carter did originally have some mechanism to lift them. Perhaps the current distributor of whatever is left of Carter's inventory (is that not Al Brisco in Canada?) might have some ideas.

Speaking personally, I'm too tall to use any normal-height guitar. A combination of raising the back legs with an L-120 didn't cut the mustard. Therefore, I use a lift kit on any pedal steel I play. Look up "lift kit" on the forum, there are lots of threads on these. Again, a normal lift kit may not work on a CS - I've never had one, so you may have to improvise.

Kevin Lichtsinn · Post by **Kevin Lichtsinn** » 2 Apr 2012 11:40 am

Thanks to all for the help! I do appreciate everyones' opinions. Now all I have to do is decide....

Erv, I can't find an Edsel dealer. I guess that option is out.

he he he he

Actually, Erv has helped me out a bit earlier.

Someday folks, I will upgrade when I feel my playing is worthy of it and when I have enough cash in my cookie jar. Right now I do have cash for a decent pedal.......and I do plan ahead...so...

Kevin Lichtsinn · Post by **Kevin Lichtsinn** » 2 Apr 2012 11:46 am

Dave Mudgett wrote:I basically agree with Erv's last post, but if you just need a little bit of extra clearance for your legs, a low-profile Goodrich 120 (L-120) might work. Used examples can sometimes be had reasonably. You also might be able to lift the back legs up a bit. Together, they may get you enough clearance.

But have you thought about raising the instrument? I think Carter did originally have some mechanism to lift them. Perhaps the current distributor of whatever is left of Carter's inventory (is that not Al Brisco in Canada?) might have some ideas.

Speaking personally, I'm too tall to use any normal-height guitar. A combination of raising the back legs with an L-120 didn't cut the mustard. Therefore, I use a lift kit on any pedal steel I play. Look up "lift kit" on the forum, there are lots of threads on these. Again, a normal lift kit may not work on a CS - I've never had one, so you may have to improvise.

I will check out the lift kit thing. If my Carter was any lower I would get my long legged self under it. I already raised the back as much as I can!

Kevin Lichtsinn · Post by **Kevin Lichtsinn** » 2 Apr 2012 11:48 am

I should have said, that "I can barely get my legs under my Carter as it is"

Kevin Lichtsinn · Post by **Kevin Lichtsinn** » 2 Apr 2012 11:55 am

Lane Gray wrote:Erv, be nice. Think of the Carter Starter as a gateway drug.

I thought playing guitar was some kind of disease....now I find out that I could be addicted to a guitar drug!! Reso, lap, pedals, AHG!!

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 2 Apr 2012 12:56 pm

Kevin,
Since you've given up on an Edsel pedal, look around for an Ernie Ball pedal. They made some with the jacks coming out the side instead of in front. They work out quite well.

Pete Ethridge · Post by **Pete Ethridge** » 2 Apr 2012 10:52 pm

which ever pedel you get make sure you buy 2 new cords with it,that way you know what you got

Ransom Beers · Post by **Ransom Beers** » 3 Apr 2012 3:19 am

The adjusting screws on a CS are 1/2-13 thd.,so to get more lift go to a hardware store & get a length of 1/2-13 threaded stock & make some longer screws,you can also get the rubber ends for that too.

Kevin Lichtsinn · Post by **Kevin Lichtsinn** » 3 Apr 2012 4:18 am

Thanks everybody!!

Rick Contino · Post by **Rick Contino** » 3 Apr 2012 4:44 am

Also, you can start by just raising the back two legs. This will give you more leg room without having to mess with the pedal rods.

Kevin Lichtsinn · Post by **Kevin Lichtsinn** » 3 Apr 2012 4:50 am

I will try these suggestions. Thanks!

Kevin Lichtsinn · Post by **Kevin Lichtsinn** » 23 Apr 2012 6:09 pm

Goodrich it is going to be!!

Lewis Goldsmith · Post by **Lewis Goldsmith** » 27 Apr 2012 2:05 pm

!$350?! You STOLE that thing! I had one for about a year and a half, not a bad starter guitar, got me off the ground and into a new Fessy. Paid $600 for mine, it stayed in tune VERY well and played good too. I sold mine last year on ebay and couldn't believe my eyes when it sold for $1095! They must be collectors items now or something!