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Topic: RKR lower half or whole |
Tommy Boswell
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Virginia, USA
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Posted 3 Mar 2012 11:02 am |
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I have 2 guitars with different setups for RKR. One guitar lowers my 2nd string a half step, which I use to get a 7th chord. The other guitar RKR lowers either a half or a whole step depending on how far I push the lever. It's hard for me to stop on the half step and get it right.
Two questions:
1. How hard is it to change the setup to make it lower only a half step?
2. What's that whole step change good for? What would I be missing? I'm still learning this instrument and don't want to cheat myself out of a useful change. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 3 Mar 2012 11:19 am
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You didn't say what kind of guitar you have. Michael Yahl (and some others) sell a spring-loaded stop that makes it much easier to hit the D.
Here's Michael's on his website (it works by allowing the rod to push freely til it hits the adjustable collar, when it starts fighting a spring): www.psgparts.com/1-2-Stop-Assembly-Lower-200-200-010.htm
and I'm pretty sure it can be adapted for comb-style bellcranks
Take it to C#. One case in point, third measure of the intro, (a lick called "the Emmons Cross"):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFj680v3xM8
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Earnest Bovine
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Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 3 Mar 2012 11:25 am Re: RKR lower half or whole
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| Tommy Boswell wrote: |
1. How hard is it to change the setup to make it lower only a half step?
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Just loosen the tuning nut
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| 2. What's that whole step change good for? |
You would miss harmonic things (combining that note with other notes) and melodic things (moving to/from that note without bending).
It's probably worth practicing the half step lower until you get comfortable with it. But it's not really necessary. |
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Tommy Boswell
From:
Virginia, USA
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Posted 3 Mar 2012 8:30 pm
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MSA Classic and ETS. The MSA has half step change and the ETS has whole step.
I thought about loosening the tuning nut, might try that. And does that also mean that I can tighten the tuning nut on the MSA to get a whole step? |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 3 Mar 2012 8:45 pm
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| Tommy Boswell wrote: |
MSA Classic and ETS. The MSA has half step change and the ETS has whole step.
I thought about loosening the tuning nut, might try that. And does that also mean that I can tighten the tuning nut on the MSA to get a whole step? |
Optimally, you'll need to shorten (ETS) or lengthen (MSA) the knee lever stop in each case respectively.
[1] - Loosening the tuning nut on the ETS is OK for a trial, but if you don't shorten the KL throw, you'll have a lot of slop or wasted movement.
[2] - The MSA will be just the opposite, you'll need to lengthen the throw. otherwise you won't have enough changer motion to accurately tune both the open and lowered 2nd string. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 4 Mar 2012 6:18 am
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MSA don't really have a rest stop on *KR. If you tighten up the nut for more travel, it just hangs farther left as it waits for something to happen.
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