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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 28 Feb 2012 4:58 pm    
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Atom Schmitt wrote:
Well. The Vibroverb showed up Saturday. It's got a Twin OT, btw.... so it's a little beefier than your average Vibroverb.


Merely changing the output tranny will do little or nothing, power-wise. Oh Well

I really think you're missing out, though, using an amp with no mid control. While this is "vogue" for lead guitar players, it seriously limits your tone shaping with a pedal steel. Without a mid control, you're stuck with the voicing that's in the amp and speaker. With a mid control, you can "scoop" the mid range, which is often essential for getting a good sound with some pedal steels.

Also, The JBL D-130 is not a particularly heavy speaker, so it may be worth trying the one you have. I used D-series JBL's for years, but gradually grew tired of the lack of good bass and clear highs (and of burning them out with my 60 watt Twin Reverb). It was a great speaker 50 years ago, but now there are many that are just plain better for steel, IMHO.
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Atom Schmitt


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Nashville, TN
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2012 5:17 pm    
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The change to the OT does fill out the low end a little more nicely though.

I did end up getting the D130F in there, and the amp sounds great with the steel, but it is a little headroom limited in some rooms, go figure.

Still, it's kind of a moot point - maybe some folks missed it, but I'm mostly gigging with a Webb 614-E now. If that's not right for PSG, then I'm thinking I'm just SOL...
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Tony Prior


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Post  Posted 29 Feb 2012 4:34 am    
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Atom Schmitt wrote:
See, I disagree about the Twin. I spend more time playing electric guitar than I do steel usually. And I'm not a pedals-for-all-my-dirt kind of guy. It just doesn't sound right. The .


You asked at the top for an all around amp and also commented later on that the tube amps don't have enough headroom...

To me it sounds like you need TWO amps, one will not give you Utopia...

If Pedal Steel is not the primary concern then I would agree, all bets are off, you don't need a Twin..

Regarding pedals, the lower priced one's sound lousy, the expensive ones sound great...Xotic, Voodlabs..etc...

The concern with NO pedals for dirt is guitars can get real loud in a hurry by pushing amps for the natural drive...

good luck

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Atom Schmitt


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Post  Posted 29 Feb 2012 7:47 am    
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Lower priced pedals? My main dirt pedal is a Klon!

In my opinion, pedals don't create good overdrive. Pedals in conjunction with an amp doing amp-like things can.

The other night the sound guy was pushing me to keep my stage volume really low. So low that every time I hit a pedal, I got a huge volume jump, because where I usually have them set the volume generally doesn't increase a ton but they add some character, and some dirt, and they change the way the amp responds a little. Usually a little more compression, among other things.

That said, this IS a pretty old thread and my rig for this band has evolved quite a bit since I started it. I still have more gear than I want with me every night, but that may just be the price we pay for having a guy in the band that plays 5 instruments each gig.
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