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Topic: Newman Material - A Loss Of Interest Or ?? |
David Beckner
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Posted 1 Feb 2012 8:38 pm |
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I have been watching ebay for several weeks now and have been noticing Jeff Newman materials going at rather unusual prices.In one lot I think there was something like 5 books and 3 or 4 videos for the going price of $12.00 . In another there was a couple more books in a lot for $20.00..
Just seems odd to me that these usually bring $35- $50 just for one book or video..Makes you wonder if these are 'knock -off' or just not popular any more.
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Ken Pippus
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Langford, BC, Canada
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Posted 1 Feb 2012 9:07 pm
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Those had no discs or tapes.
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David Beckner
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Posted 1 Feb 2012 9:53 pm
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I dont think the ones listed now have disc , but a couple weeks ago there was a few listed that had vhs with them that were going around $20.00 or so..I dont know if it was the same seller or ?
I just thought it strange for the money. I looked at some of the forum post and found some of the same material almost double the $$
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 2 Feb 2012 3:07 am
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The Jeff Newman material is as applicable today as it was when it was produced.
My wife is learning pedal steel and has just completed the Up from the Top course for the AB pedals and the "E" and "F" levers. |
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Bent Romnes
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Posted 2 Feb 2012 6:30 am
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The Jeff Newman material is as applicable today as it was when it was produced.
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Amen, Jack. This is very true.
My talking to players in different parts of the world, not only North America, confirms that Jeff's courses are as applicable but also top-drawer material. In other words second to none.
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Jerome Hawkes
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Posted 2 Feb 2012 7:34 am
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you are talking about ebay auctions with VHS tapes and/or cassettes, or NO tapes at all - these are pretty suspect 20+ years after they have been viewed and rewound a hundred times. plus, its like anything you are selling, if its missing half the package....
i saw a pile of Newman stuff last fall go for OVER $400 - it was the DVD /CD versions.
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b0b
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David Beckner
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Kentucky, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2012 8:29 am
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I agree theses are as valuable to some as when they first come out
b0b I also agree with buying straight from the source.
Just got my curiosity when I noticed them -- I wasnt shopping for them - just looking at newly listed pedal steel stuff
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WALKER SEAT
NASHVILLE 400
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CUSH CASE RACK
PEAVEY DELTA FEX
PARTS CASTER.Gospel and Classic Country Music
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Fred Glave
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McHenry, Illinois, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2012 2:37 pm
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Newman courses are very wonderful, I have a couple that helped me a lot. One thing I can think of is that there is just so much more available nowdays, especially on YouTube that's free. It's hard to compete with that. I don't think that the YouTube stuff gets into it as deep as some of the stuff in Jeff Newman's material. There's also teachers who can give lessons on Skype. But getting good learning material for intermediate and more advanced players is tough to find. Most stuff focuses on beginners.
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Mark Eaton
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Posted 2 Feb 2012 2:39 pm
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I wouldn't think that there's a loss of Interest in Jeff Newman's learning materials. I think they're great.
As alluded to earlier, those that come with video tapes instead of DVDs have little appeal for the buyer anymore. And I don't care how good the quality of a teaching material is and how hot the price - I just flat won't buy it unless it's on DVD.
In the 90's as a traveling sales rep I was a holdout, sort of a "semi-Luddite" for a few years in that I avoided purchasing a cell phone, instead staying with a pager that I wore on my belt. If someone at company headquarters, or a customer called me, I had to get off the road and find a pay phone to reutrn their call. And the pay phone might not always be in the most desirable of neighborhoods.
After I had a cell phone for awhile it occurred to me that my previous semi-Luddite apporach was just flat out dumb.
I still have for whatever reason two perfectly functioning VCRs at home that rarely get used. But I have zero interest in purchasing learning materials on VHS - it'd be like going back to having a pager on my belt.
There are some forms of technolgy that still hold on because they might be superior in some ways though not as convenient. I've listened to vinyl LPs like "Kind of Blue" by Miles Davis on 180 gram audiophile vinyl through a good sound system, and you close your eyes and imagine that you're sitting on a couch in the recording studio and it's 1959.
But VHS video tape doesn't strike me as that kind of technology.
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Fred Glave
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Posted 2 Feb 2012 2:44 pm
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If the VHS is good quality you can convert it to DVD easy enough.
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Tommy Boswell
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Posted 2 Feb 2012 4:43 pm
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| Fred Glave wrote: |
| If the VHS is good quality you can convert it to DVD easy enough. |
Do you mean easy enough for a do-it-yourself-er? Or for a company that provides the service? |
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Fred Glave
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McHenry, Illinois, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2012 5:38 pm
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If you have Windows DVD Maker software which comes standard on newer laptops and computers, it should be pretty easy. I personally haven't done it yet, but will be putting all my home VHS recording on disc soon. You will need a digital interface for video. I have one I use for sound for my Audacity multitrack program and it was fairly inexpensive...40 bucks. Don't know how much one would cost for video, or if a different one is even needed.
P.S. I personally think there isn't any harm in converting to DVD for your own personal use, but don't know if it's frowned upon by the authors in terms of copyright or propriatary rights. That's why a legitimate service probably wouldn't do it for you. Kind of like putting all of your vinyl onto CD, and then selling the vinyl.
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Ray Anderson
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Posted 2 Feb 2012 6:38 pm Newman instruction
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Got my kit from Amazon $29.00 ,it'made by ION. Good gadget. Don't copy mine to rob anyone, only to prserve my materials. VHS tapes mess up easily and when that happens I've got backups. I like the VHS format. Alot of DVDs are chaptered and you can't go back to a specific point and stop without going through the whole segment.  |
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Stuart Legg
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Posted 3 Feb 2012 8:11 pm
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The Woodshed first 20 were killer but someone just said "to heck with that, we'll just throw those away".
I'm seriously considering selling copies of them for $10 to cover expenses so other folks could enjoy them as much as I have.
I don't mean to be disrespectful but I get angry every time I think how someone made the decision that the courses aren't worth taking off cassette and putting them on CD. What that would take 2 mins?
I know itβs none of my business and it certainly is not my decision to make, but it felt good to get that off my chest. |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 3 Feb 2012 8:34 pm
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| Stuart Legg wrote: |
The Woodshed first 20 were killer but someone just said "to heck with that, we'll just throw those away".
I'm seriously considering selling copies of them for $10 to cover expenses so other folks could enjoy them as much as I have.
I don't mean to be disrespectful but I get angry every time I think how someone made the decision that the courses aren't worth taking off cassette and putting them on CD. What that would take 2 mins?
I know itβs none of my business and it certainly is not my decision to make, but it felt good to get that off my chest. |
Why don't you make Fran an offer to modernize the Woodshed courses for her? You'd win more friends that way than publicly announcing a desire to commit piracy.  (Which, by the way, would get you kicked off of this Forum.)
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David Beckner
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Kentucky, USA
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Posted 3 Feb 2012 8:40 pm
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I seem to be reading a lot of copying from vhs to dvd format.
My question about doing this is - if you change the format does this also change the pitch or tuning. I know in years past I used to take a little tape recorder with me to record my playing at gigs, when I listen to them back I noticed songs in A were now sharp or flat.
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WALKER SEAT
NASHVILLE 400
BEHRINGER RACK TUNER
CUSH CASE RACK
PEAVEY DELTA FEX
PARTS CASTER.Gospel and Classic Country Music
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 3 Feb 2012 8:48 pm
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VHS has to run at a very tightly controlled speed to sync the video at 30 frames per second. Audio tape had no such requirement. The speeds of cassette players were often faster or slower than the specification.
You can expect the pitch of sound on VHS to be accurate.
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David Beckner
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Kentucky, USA
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Posted 3 Feb 2012 8:57 pm
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Thanks b0b , I have some videos from different bands either myself or friends have played. I have wanted to transfer to dvd but wasnt sure if it would change the audio.
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WILCOX SD10 (love the white mica)
WALKER SEAT
NASHVILLE 400
BEHRINGER RACK TUNER
CUSH CASE RACK
PEAVEY DELTA FEX
PARTS CASTER.Gospel and Classic Country Music
http://www.dbupholstery.yolasite.com |
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Lynn Fargo
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Fort Edward, NY
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Posted 3 Feb 2012 9:11 pm
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Hi b0b.
Thanks for that info re VHS pitch. I never knew that.
I have a turntable and cassette player that are "tunable", so I've got all my old Newman, Emmons, etc courses recorded on CD for ease of use for myself. Guess I can go ahead and record my VHS to DVD, also. Much more convenient.
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