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Jim Whitaker
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fingerpick help

Post by Jim Whitaker »

I can't seem to get my finger picks right. Is there a correct way to wear them? I have seen them wrapped completely over the fingertips & also just barely bent (usually as you buy them). Is there a right or wrong way??

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Bob Mainwaring
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Post by Bob Mainwaring »

Jim - how long is a piece of string??
Evreyone here has a general rule that they stick to, for themselves.
The first rule is to feel comfortable with them in place, try your "grip" and see/feel what and where you attack the string and what direction they approach.
Personaly I bend them just slightly to curve around the finger tips but not too much as the tone will be affected.
I instead of a straight-on placement, I angle them slightlty to come around so that they attack in a straight line picking towards you.
To make sure they stay in place, I usually wet my finger ends by sticking each one in turn in my mouth, this way it has just enough damp feel to keep them in place.
Some guys use a glue kinda thing called Gorrila Snot which you can get at some of the dealers on your side of the border. This apparently keeps your picks in place.
After a while you get used to how they feel and correct them acordingly.

Bob Mainwaring. Z.Bs. and other weird things.

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Bill Moore
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Post by Bill Moore »

The great thing about the JF picks made by Jeff Newman is that they are pre-bent, and made of stiff metal so that they stay that way.
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DJ Sillito
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Post by DJ Sillito »

Jim If you don't mind me adding my two cents worth. I always found my biggest problem was wrapping them around the finger and then having the overlapped portion on the back of the knuckle always inadvertantly hitting the string above the one I was picking. If you would like to try something for the fun of it
get a pair of Ernie Ball Banjo picks. The are very lightweight easy to bend and wrap around the finger easily. The also have a pointed or tapered end. The may wear out a little faster but they only cost $1.00/pair approx.
As far as tone goes I think they sound a lot brighter than my $6.00(canadian funds) pair of Reso Picks. Anyways I sure like the banjo picks but hey it just my preference.

Keep Steelin,
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Jim Whitaker
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Post by Jim Whitaker »

I have been playing since october 2001 & I use a pair that are not curved over my fingers at all they just come barely over my fingertips. is this wrong if so I want to change right away to get out of any bad habits early.

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DJ Sillito
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Post by DJ Sillito »

Jim just to clarify about the picks there are two parts of the pick that can be bent or shaped. The part of the pick that actually strikes the string and the band portion that wraps around the finger. The striking portion or the actual "pick" should have some curve to it. How much may vary depending on what is comfortable for you. I feel that if the pick is too straight it requires you to lift your hand more to clear the pick from the string after you have plucked it. The band portion in my case overlaps each other because my fingers are smaller if your fingers are larger or wider you may not have a problem at all with the band overlapping itself.
By the way when I first strapped a pair of picks on I had no clue whatsoever on how to where them. I put them on backwards like an extra set of long fingernails and I plucked the strings and they caught and the recoil of the strings flung the picks right off my fingers on to the floor. I was only 14 years old and that was my introdution to steel pickin'.

Good luck
keep Steelin'
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Post by Buddy Emmons »

Assuming the band of the pick fits comfortably around the finger, there are two angles in the pick blade that can give you an uncomfortable feeling while playing. If the angle is too straight, it will drag against the string, and when bent too far, the blade surface has little string resistance and slides off the string too easily. Either angle can affect your timing. Somewhere in between is the angle that allows the blade surface to slide comfortably off the string, but creates just enough resistance to offer a slight snap in the feel without the drag.
Dave Birkett
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Post by Dave Birkett »

Does anyone adjust the convexity of the blade or just the angle relative to the band?
Joe Adams
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Post by Joe Adams »

The blade portion should be bent slightly to match the curvature of your hand as you play. If you have trouble with the picks comming off, try putting a couple pieces of heat shrink about 1/8" wide on the top part that wraps around your finger. This will give you security. I have seen players have picks in all positions and play good. Get a position that feels good and then practice, practice, practice.

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Chip Fossa
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Post by Chip Fossa »

As far as the picks sliding off your finger
from time to time, as my hands get real dried out in the winter, especially, I've come up with my latest anti-slip application.

Being in the plumbing trade, I cut pieces of emery cloth [shine cloth, we call it] in a
rough T pattern. Opened up the picks a bit to
allow the T cloth to lay in there. Glued these T sections with fletching cement [cement used in gluing feathers to arrow shafts]. Used a proper fitting cork [from a wine bottle, maybe] and slowly squeezed the picks around the cork to better shape/contact the emery cloth to the pick.

After a good 24 hours to set up, I removed the corks, took a one-sided razor blade and trimmed off the excess emery cloth. I then went to my bench grinder and buffed & cleaned up the outside of the picks with a wire wheel. Hold the picks with needle nose pliers. The wire wheel also smoothed out the
rough razor blade cuts as well.

These picks really stay put in place. About the only way they would pop off, now,is if you got the pick hooked somehow on a string.

FWIW...ChipsAhoy
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Post by Donny Hinson »

There are dozens of brands, types, and styles on the market. Keep trying different ones until you find the one that's comfortable, and gives you a clean, consistent sound.

Forming (re-shaping, or bending as some call it) is almost always necessary, as there are more fingers out there than there are brands and styles.
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