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Dickie Whitley

 

Post  Posted 8 Jan 2012 5:43 pm    
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Bob Tuttle


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Post  Posted 8 Jan 2012 6:22 pm    
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A to Bb would be a raise, not a lower.
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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 8 Jan 2012 6:48 pm    
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They're both useful. Which one are you interested in?
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Jim Hollingsworth

 

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Post  Posted 8 Jan 2012 7:08 pm    
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The first thing that comes to mind is to add a dominant 7th to the basic open position C chord.... C7. But it can also function with other pedals & lever to add chord colors.

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Dickie Whitley

 

Post  Posted 8 Jan 2012 7:22 pm    
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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 8 Jan 2012 8:48 pm    
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Use it together with Pedal 6 to get a nice minor7 chord in the home position.
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Herb Steiner


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Post  Posted 8 Jan 2012 9:05 pm    
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Some of my uses for it are with pedal 6 to get a dominant 11th (root on s.9)...

... with pedal 5 to get an augmented (#5) chord.

... with pedal 8 for a [dom.7th b9] chord
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Steve Alonzo Walker


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Post  Posted 9 Jan 2012 3:34 am    
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I have mine on a knee with a half-stop. A to Bb to B. Saves my 4th pedal for other stuff.
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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 9 Jan 2012 6:01 am    
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I like that idea, Steve. Smile
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ebb


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Post  Posted 9 Jan 2012 7:58 am    
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susan alcorn also does the Bb/B on her lkl
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Post  Posted 9 Jan 2012 8:16 am    
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Hmmm... I like that idea also. What remains to be seen is how fast the change is accomplished, compared to the quickness of a footpedal.
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 9 Jan 2012 12:58 pm    
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I have mine on a knee with a half-stop. A to Bb to B. Saves my 4th pedal for other stuff.


Same here. Been doing it that way for many years.
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Brett Lanier

 

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Post  Posted 9 Jan 2012 2:38 pm    
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What would be the disadvantages of raising 8 and half tone with 4 on RKR? I have that on one of my guitars (the one I'm not gigging with anymore) and it seemed handy for a lot of things I have to play.

I have that feel stop going up to B on that guitar too, I prefer the speediness of that change on pedal 4 though.
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Ron Funk

 

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Post  Posted 11 Jan 2012 7:07 pm    
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I was once told this was the Big E's C6th set-up (and have my PP set up this way):

Lowers to the Left
Raises to the Right

4th string Left Knee Left = A to Ab (Lower)

4th string Left Knee Right = A to Bb (Raise)



Same set-up on 3rd string:

3rd string Right Knee Left = C to B Lower

3rd string Right Knee Right = C to C# Raise
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Rick Schmidt


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Post  Posted 11 Jan 2012 9:05 pm    
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Steve Alonzo Walker wrote:
I have mine on a knee with a half-stop. A to Bb to B. Saves my 4th pedal for other stuff.


I also have that on a KL. I got use to it quick! I've got it on both A strings...I had to experiment with string gauges on the lower A to get it timed right and in tune. (a .046W in my case) It frees up pedal 4, and I've found so many other pedal combinations to use it with that I couldn't without using 2 feet!
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Susan Alcorn (deceased)


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Post  Posted 12 Jan 2012 4:43 am    
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Like Ebb wrote, I have that change on my lkl (as a half stop raising both A's to B). With the Bb, there are a number of nice things you can do: it offers the opportunity for some nice dominant 7th voicings as well as a suspended 7th chord when used with the C pedal; when used with the B pedal, you have an augmented seventh. Also, when playing fast (or not), you have a nice half-step between the Bb and the B (lowered C string). I like it as a knee lever because I can use it in more combinations that way.

I hope this helps.
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