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Topic: Sho-Bud provenance |
David Mansfield
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New Jersey, USA
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Posted 14 Dec 2011 12:33 pm |
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Hi-
I've never really gotten this straight. I have a Sho-Bud, SN 5341, model 6155. That's supposed to be a Pro-II (8 pedals 2 KL), but it says "Pro-III Custom" and has 4 knee levers. It was picked off the line at Sho-Bud for me in'73 (possibly early '74?) by Neil Flanz, who was a bit of a mentor (gave me a few lessons when he was in NY for the GP tour in '73). It's got a double raise-single lower changer like a Pro-II but metal necks like the Pro-III. Anyone know the story of this guitar? Since it doesn't have a double-raise/double-lower is it a prototype?
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David |
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Olli Haavisto
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Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 14 Dec 2011 1:09 pm
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In the Sho-Bud catalogue I have the only difference between Pro II and III are the necks.
I would guess that in 73 both II and III had double/single changers and both were upgraded to double/double later.
I had a Pro III identical to yours and was thrilled to see it in "Renaldo and Clara".
I bought mine at Manny`s in 78 but it had probably been in their basement for awhile because it had the gumby headstock and wide pedals, 4 kls. I believe the changer was double/single, can`t be sure, though. Never even thought about adding anything... 
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Olli Haavisto
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Skip Edwards
From:
LA,CA
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Posted 14 Dec 2011 3:31 pm
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Any and all combinations of parts were possible with Sho-Buds. They would change a few things here and there as they went along, so it's not uncommon to see that sort of thing on gtrs that were made early on in their production run.
Early '74 would have most likely had a 2up/1down changer. I've seen a few early ProIII's with the same changer.
Question...is it a roundfront body?
btw...haven't we worked together awhile back at Steven Soles' place in Santa Monica? |
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 14 Dec 2011 4:59 pm
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Michael Yahl
From:
Troy, Texas!
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Posted 14 Dec 2011 6:04 pm
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Nope Kevin, it was Friday, April 12, 1974 that it was built on (approximate calculated guesstimation using surrounding dates)
They were all in a hurry to get to the bar and it was probably payday to boot!
Does that date sound vaguely familiar David?
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"Don't fergit to kiss yer horse!"
'72 Sho-Bud Professional D10, (in pieces .....), '78 MSA Classic XL D10, '69 Emmons PP, Fender 2000
Peavey Session 500 BW, Crate Digital Modeling Amp
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David Mansfield
From:
New Jersey, USA
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Posted 14 Dec 2011 6:06 pm
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Hi Skip-
Yes, I think we did work at Steven's old place!
My guitar is a square front. Blonde finish, wide pedals, etc.
Well I guess that answers it-- it has to be one of the first Pro-IIIs and they were making it up as they went along.
Sure like how the old thing sounds. |
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David Mansfield
From:
New Jersey, USA
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Posted 14 Dec 2011 6:11 pm
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Thanks Michael! That does sound about right, I would have come home to NJ from LA in the fall of 1973 (right after Gram died), so getting the steel in the spring is the right timing.
Thanks, everybody, I'll have to save this thread (not that I ever plan to sell the guitar, it's just nice to know). |
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Michael Yahl
From:
Troy, Texas!
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Posted 14 Dec 2011 6:12 pm
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David, yours is now the earliest Pro III that I have record of. There aren't any others that appear before your serial number and the next one isn't until August and then they begin to appear more frequently.
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"Don't fergit to kiss yer horse!"
'72 Sho-Bud Professional D10, (in pieces .....), '78 MSA Classic XL D10, '69 Emmons PP, Fender 2000
Peavey Session 500 BW, Crate Digital Modeling Amp
PSG PARTS
http://www.psgparts.com/ |
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Ronnie Green
From:
Des Moines, New Mexico, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2011 5:57 pm
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Aaahh..Another Sho-Bud mystery? The janitor did it after hours!!
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79 emmons pp, 84 emmons skh, ltd/rittenberry, steelair |
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