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Thomas Cepek
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Posted 17 Nov 2011 4:34 am |
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Hi..... !
I have a problem with two of my pedal steel guitar legs since they are new. I cannot fix them in height. I can screw it as much as I can and they slip always back.
Perhaps someone can help me to fix that problem without having to buy new legs.
Kind regards... Thomas
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Rick Contino
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Brattleboro, Vermont
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Posted 17 Nov 2011 5:25 am Dowel trick
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You can cut a 3/4 inch dowel the length of the extension you want and put it in the wider part of the leg before putting it back together. That will never slip.
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Mike Wheeler
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Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2011 6:28 am
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Try cleaning all the parts and pipes with alcohol. There should not be any lube, of any kind, on those parts. From your pictures, it doesn't appear anything is broken, so this should work.
Or replace the parts - http://www.jacksmusicfactory.com/default.asp?productid=1810_Atlas_MSC-K_Clutch_Kit
I've seen this problem many times on mic stands. Over time, hand oils build up and cause slippage. Or else the parts just wear out.
Good luck.
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Ricky Davis
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Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2011 6:28 am
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Looks to me like you need to turn that brass ring the other way. Also while you're at it...Do like Mike said in the cleaning of mainly the threads on the leg and inside the tightening collar; as small metal shavings occur in the threads from trying to overtighten and from being new and from being old....and you're good to go.
Ricky
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2011 9:07 am Re: Steelguitarlegs
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| Thomas Cepek wrote: |
I can screw it as much as I can and they slip always back.
Perhaps someone can help me to fix that problem without having to buy new legs.
Kind regards... Thomas
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Your brown ring
has no gap, so it cannot be tightened.
Try this: cut off a small piece of the ring, like this:
and now the ring can be squeezed tight around the leg. |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2011 9:10 am
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When the ring is on the leg, the ring should have a small gap like this:
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2011 9:15 am
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Also, if the leg is too slippery, you can make a rough, uneven surface. This fixed it for me.
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2011 9:15 am
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FWIW that links to a $30 price.
Google search shows same at $15.
Is seems wasteful to buy the whole kit when you probably need only the ring with the gap. |
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Bent Romnes
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London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 17 Nov 2011 2:08 pm Re: Dowel trick
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| Rick Contino wrote: |
| You can cut a 3/4 inch dowel the length of the extension you want and put it in the wider part of the leg before putting it back together. That will never slip. |
That's what Don Burrows does to the legs he makes. A length of dowel inside the wide part, cut to the length you need, will make it right. Don's legs are rock solid (and beautiful).
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Don Burrows
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Ashtabula, Oh. USA
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Posted 18 Nov 2011 5:04 am
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Brent, I don't use any wooden rods in the legs to keep them from slipping. If the parts are made correct, they won't slip. I have used a one inch wood spacer at the top on legs for pedal steel to keep the legs the correct length between the knurled collar and rubber boot so the pedal rack will fit in between. The 5/8 inner rod is 24" long when I buy them, and it takes about a 25" rod to get the correct length, and I like to make the legs very solid for the pedal steels. All the legs I make for the non pedal steels have no wood spacers at all.
Two of the problems have been addressed above, the plastic ring has to be cut so it can grip on the 5/8 shaft and the metal ring has a taper on one side that has to fit into the plastic ring.
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 18 Nov 2011 6:16 am
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I had a set of new legs on a new Carter that did this and John F. and I tried several fixes.
They had to be replaced.
Dons work and products are top notch.
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Bent Romnes
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London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 18 Nov 2011 8:32 am
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| Don Burrows wrote: |
Brent, I don't use any wooden rods in the legs to keep them from slipping. If the parts are made correct, they won't slip. I have used a one inch wood spacer at the top on legs for pedal steel to keep the legs the correct length between the knurled collar and rubber boot so the pedal rack will fit in between. The 5/8 inner rod is 24" long when I buy them, and it takes about a 25" rod to get the correct length, and I like to make the legs very solid for the pedal steels. All the legs I make for the non pedal steels have no wood spacers at all.
Two of the problems have been addressed above, the plastic ring has to be cut so it can grip on the 5/8 shaft and the metal ring has a taper on one side that has to fit into the plastic ring. |
Don, I stand corrected. When I saw those wood dowels inside the legs I thought what a great idea! It makes the correct space for the pedal bar like you say. Your clutches and the whole assembly is made rock solid of course. So for holding power they wouldn't be needed in your legs. For any leg where the clutch is weakened with time and use--- a dowel would be the way to fix it, should slippage happen.
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Thomas Cepek
From:
Berlin, Germany
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Posted 19 Nov 2011 2:15 am
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Hi all of you !
Wow, that was fast and soooo much replies... thanks so much all of you for your help. I will try one or another tip and will tell you, which one will help to fix that problem.
Ken, yes, mine are newer Carter legs too... interesting that seems to be a regular problem. The legs on my 14 years old Carter are top and don´t have any problems.
Kind regards... Thomas  |
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Norbert Dengler
From:
germany
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Posted 19 Nov 2011 11:41 am
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i always hated them micophone stand-legs.
glad to have a GFI, no such things solid as a rock!  |
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Bob Snelgrove
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san jose, ca
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2011 8:27 pm Steelguitarlegs
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| I am one of those lazy steelers, when I played in bands I never cased my steel, but hauled it assembled with a cover on the body. Had a guy try to set on it one night. He thought it was a padded long stool. OH NO. Take the rubber feet off the leg at correct length and run a 1/2 dowell up the leg. Make sure it goes within an inch or two of the body so it seats solid against the threaded stub that screws into the guitar. Some sliding leg inserts are sort of flattened to keep them from pulling through the cluch ring. Cut the dowel even with the bottom of the leg, Put the rubber foot back on. I had to take my peddle bar off and drill holes for the bolts that hold the peddle bar on through the dowell. Put the dowels in all 4 legs. I can still adjust a back leg longer to set up on an uneven floor. It will stay level on these dowell regardless of what the cluches do. Good Luck and Happy Steelin |
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