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Topic: Need Informmation on Tri Flow.. |
Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 16 Nov 2011 9:36 am |
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I understand there are 2 types.. one is God's gift to steel guitar mechanisms, the other is Satans spawn and will gum your steel up... Which one do I want???.. It will be used on my Fender 800 which is a friction nightmare compared to a modern steel, especially the changer which has all kinds of rubbing and bumping and grinding built right into it,,, Can you spray this stuff right into the changer and call it good??.. I will use is on the cable rollers, pedals, pedal actuators, pedal rods and clips, but am concerned about the changer itself.. Any help?... bob
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Chuck Walker
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Cody, Wyoming, USA
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Posted 16 Nov 2011 9:58 am
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| Bob, do a search for Tri-Flow in the Pedal Steel section and then look at the thread "best/safest lubrication?" There is an extensive discussion of tri-flow and its two incarnations. |
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 16 Nov 2011 11:01 am
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| Not only are there two kinds, it seems to me that in various threads I've seen some people say the dry one is what you want and some people say the other one is what you want. I've stuck with Super Oil from Gunk. Oil is at least unambiguous. |
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Greg Cutshaw
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Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 16 Nov 2011 11:39 am
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Here's what I use and it's basically PTFE (teflon) suspended in light oil versus the dry TriFlow.
http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Lubricate/Lubricate.html
Anything with oil will eventually mix with dirt, dust, etc and form a sludge. Even a teflon sludge is pretty slick! The light oil helps transport the teflon to far away places.
Here's the complete TriFlow product line including their new line of Soy lubricants. The Soy replaces the light oil to transport the teflon and evaporates in about 20 days leaving you with a teflon film.
http://www.triflowlubricants.com/Tri-Flow_Lubricant.html
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Andy Sandoval
From:
Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 16 Nov 2011 12:06 pm
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Tri-flow in the pin point applicator is the way to go too.
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 16 Nov 2011 3:07 pm
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Jim Sliff where are you?.. which do I want for a Fender steel?
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Kevin Bollivar
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Posted 16 Nov 2011 6:51 pm
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That's what I got Andy....great little gadget 
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 17 Nov 2011 10:18 am
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| i've mainly used LPS-1 for 35 yrs. is this similar to tri-flow? |
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Mike Wheeler
From:
Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2011 12:23 pm
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Bob, the one you want is the bottle, or pin-point container, that does NOT say "Dry Lubricant" or "grease".
Mr. Cutshaw's link at the bottom of his post takes you to the right stuff. Most of the items in the left column will be good for your steel.
I say "most", because I haven't tested the soy based lube. I will get some and do some testing. If Jim Sliff sees this post, he might have more info about it.
Yo, Jim, where ya at, buddy???
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2011 3:25 pm
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So I guess I want the "wet" Tri Flow, which is basically a light oil that has Teflon suspended in it... right? bob
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Bob Carlucci
From:
Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2011 3:26 pm
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duh... double post...
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Mike Wheeler
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Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2011 5:08 pm
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That's right, Bob. That "light oil" actually evaporates after a short while and leaves just the teflon behind. That's what makes it so good for a steel mechanism. Nothing "wet" for grime to stick to.
When applying it, be generous, but not to the point that it's running out everywhere. Now if your steel already has oil in it, then a second and third application, a few weeks apart, may be needed to "wash out" the old oil and allow the teflon to do it's job.
Whenever I tear down a steel and clean the parts, I coat all the parts with Triflow and let them set overnight. (not really necessary, but I do it anyway) Then as I do the reassembly I lube all the typical friction points again. That's just my method. I'm not saying others should do the same.
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John Richmond
From:
New Mexico, USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2011 9:40 pm Refilling the Tri-Flow Lubricator
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Greg,
On your website, you mention refilling the TriFlow Lubricator as needed. My question is, how do we go about this? Do we get the 18-ounce spray container(model TF29200?) and pour from there, through a funnel? Or should we use a syringe? At 28 bucks a bottle, we wouldn't want to spill it. The 18-ounce bottle would seem to be the better buy, about 20 cents less per ounce than the 6-ounce drip bottle. |
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 18 Nov 2011 4:57 am
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John, I've had my original Tro-Flow pinpoint oiler for over a year now and it's about 3/4 used up. In addition to lubing my steel I've been using it on ddor hinges, guitar nuts and I even took my guitar B/G pull apart and lubed it with great results. At this point I am thinking of just buying another pinpoint lube bottle. The pinpoint luber is not that tiny and should be a snap to refill using a small funnel. The cap comes off giving you easy access.
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Carl Williams
From:
Oklahoma
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Posted 18 Nov 2011 6:23 am
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Bob,
I went down to our local Bicyle Shop and picked up a bottle of liquid Tri-Flow with Teflon and works great IMHO anyway. Carl |
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John Richmond
From:
New Mexico, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2011 8:14 pm
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| Thank you, Greg. I appreciate the info and the great pictures on your website. I plan to get a pinpoint oiler and doctor my Fessy D10 with it. |
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Brian Henry
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Posted 22 Nov 2011 4:04 pm
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I went to a bicycle shop and got this today.; I am confused with wet and dry ec... will this work ??
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Mike Wheeler
From:
Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 22 Nov 2011 4:52 pm
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tb, you are fine with the pin-point oiler is that package. The Red Grease is just that...grease. Save that for what it was intended for...bearings and high temperature applications. The Triflow in the oiler will last a long time if you're just lubing one or two steels.
Also, remember to shake it up frequently to keep the teflon particles is suspension. When applied, it should appear slightly milky, and not clear.
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Bo Borland
From:
South Jersey -
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Posted 22 Nov 2011 5:21 pm
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MY local Ace or True Value carries it.. $2.99 for a 3oz squeeze bottle.. comes with a tiny straw that fits in the dropper end.
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