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Topic: Show me your 10 string laps |
norm mcdaniel
From:
waco tx
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Posted 5 Oct 2011 10:27 am |
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Hi All
Could you kindly show me your 10 string home made laps. Ive been making some 6 and 8s but a friend of mine who cant play pedals anymore would like me to put together a 10 string for him. Give me some ideas
Thanks in Advance
Norm in Waco Texas   |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 5 Oct 2011 11:11 am
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| you'll need to make it kind of like an 8 string but with two more strings. |
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Jay Fagerlie
From:
Lotus, California, USA
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Posted 5 Oct 2011 3:06 pm
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No Chris-that's too hard
Make it like a 6 string and add four more strings! |
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Steve Green
From:
Gulfport, MS, USA
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chas smith R.I.P.
From:
Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 5 Oct 2011 8:32 pm
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How about a 12. This was made to be light weight and when needed, to bolt onto the back of a triple neck console guitar, hence the two standoffs on the front. It's titanium tubing with an aluminum fret board, keyhead and housing at the tail of the guitar. The nut is titanium as is the tail/bridge assembly. The pup is an EMG with the electronics and battery in the tail housing. Apologies for the lavender towel. It was the only clean one I had, at the time.
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norm mcdaniel
From:
waco tx
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Posted 6 Oct 2011 4:46 am show me your 10 strings
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Thanks guys for the picts. They gave me some ideas
Thanks again
Norm |
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Ron Whitfield
From:
Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 6 Oct 2011 3:22 pm
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| chas smith wrote: |
| How about a 12? |
How about a sound clip of that bad boy?! |
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Bob Russell
From:
Virginia, USA
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Posted 6 Oct 2011 5:27 pm
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| Ron Whitfield wrote: |
| chas smith wrote: |
| How about a 12? |
How about a sound clip of that bad boy?! |
I second Ron - that looks amazing! |
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Norman Evans
From:
Tennessee
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Raymond Jones
From:
British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 7 Oct 2011 7:33 am smallest I could build with a 24 1/2" scale
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with a keyless head I designed and built to keep it small. Great sound from the tonealigner pup, you can balance each string tone. 261/4 inch overall length.
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Paul Arntson
From:
Washington, USA
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Posted 7 Oct 2011 9:14 am
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Raymond,
I'd like to try that idea. Would you be willing to share your keyless tuner design?
-Paul |
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chas smith R.I.P.
From:
Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 7 Oct 2011 10:01 am
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Nice looking red guitar and keyless. Doing the mill work on a drill press wasn't easy.
Ron and Bob, the only recorded performances with that guitar are from a couple concerts I did, that are long and the music wasn't "Steel Guitar Forum friendly". That guitar has an EMG pickup that can "cut through" an Eventide and still sound like a steel guitar, but I don't really like the way it sounds and I intend on replacing it with a Bartolini. Here's a couple pics of the console it was "married" to, Guitarzilla.
The pic above is from a concert at the Schindler House and the paper sheet on the bass neck is the music score that I'm having to read.
The guitar that sounds the closest to it is another titanium guitar with an EMG pickup.
This is from a concert where I'm playing behind Allesandro Cortini and there is also some synthesizer going on. What I'm doing has to be supportive of what Allesandro's Buchla is doing. It's not about the steel guitar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pavBmNdVfQY&feature=related |
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Robbie Daniels
From:
Casper, Wyoming, USA
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Posted 7 Oct 2011 11:48 am
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Here's my 12 string
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Daniel Morris
From:
Westlake, Ohio, USA
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Posted 7 Oct 2011 3:54 pm
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Ah, Chas, will wonders never cease? Such an innovative approach to reinterpreting steel guitar.
Any chance you can post that performance - if it hasn't been posted already - for those of us who truly enjoy hearing what you do?
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1979 MSA U12 Pedal Steel
1982 Kline U12 Pedal steel
2019 Sierra U12 Pedal Steel
2011 Bear Creek MK Weissenborn
Milkman 40W Mini amp w/Telonics 15" speaker.
Dr. Z Surgical Steel w/TT 15" speaker.
Frenzel MB-50 head.
Spaceman, Empress, Eventide, Pigtronix. |
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Bob Russell
From:
Virginia, USA
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Posted 7 Oct 2011 4:35 pm
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| Hey Chas, I enjoyed that piece very much. Don't worry so much about being "SGF-friendly". It's always interesting to hear different approaches on our instrument, which is much more versatile than a lot of people realize. |
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chas smith R.I.P.
From:
Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 7 Oct 2011 9:54 pm
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Well, Daniel and Bob, at the risk of alienating everyone else, this is the recording from that concert. I'm playing the rods for the 1st 8 minutes or so, then the steel guitar comes in. Everything was composed to be looped in sections, while I'm playing it. Under my name, you have to push the streaming in Quicktime button.
http://www.soundnet.org/concerts/mov_refs/s.shtml#chassmith |
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Bob Russell
From:
Virginia, USA
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Posted 7 Oct 2011 10:10 pm
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| chas smith wrote: |
Well, Daniel and Bob, at the risk of alienating everyone else, this is the recording from that concert. I'm playing the rods for the 1st 8 minutes or so, then the steel guitar comes in. Everything was composed to be looped in sections, while I'm playing it. Under my name, you have to push the streaming in Quicktime button.
http://www.soundnet.org/concerts/mov_refs/s.shtml#chassmith |
Pretty cool! I would never have guessed it was a steel guitar making those sounds. How do you actuate the rods? Bowing? Rubbing? |
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John Swain
From:
Winchester, Va
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Posted 8 Oct 2011 8:32 am
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I made this guitar when MSA came out with the "SuperSlides"...couldn't afford one! Tuned C6th/D on top..JS
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Daniel Morris
From:
Westlake, Ohio, USA
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Posted 8 Oct 2011 2:12 pm
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I did somehow find that link, Chas, but thank you for putting it up. I know it's perhaps a tad off-topic, but those of us who love hearing or using steel in unusual contexts truly appreciate your work. Our instrument is assured a future with so many varied uses, from stone cold country to your pieces.
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1979 MSA U12 Pedal Steel
1982 Kline U12 Pedal steel
2019 Sierra U12 Pedal Steel
2011 Bear Creek MK Weissenborn
Milkman 40W Mini amp w/Telonics 15" speaker.
Dr. Z Surgical Steel w/TT 15" speaker.
Frenzel MB-50 head.
Spaceman, Empress, Eventide, Pigtronix. |
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Tony Dingus
From:
Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 8 Oct 2011 3:10 pm
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Chas, what tuning do you have on the bass neck ?
Tony |
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Bob Russell
From:
Virginia, USA
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Posted 8 Oct 2011 9:57 pm
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No disrespect intended to anyone, but how could Chas's link be "off-topic"? It's music made on a steel guitar, and this is the Steel Guitar Forum. The core group here may be country and/or Hawaiian fans, but there are people playing all kinds of music on steel guitars. I want to know about 'em all!  |
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chas smith R.I.P.
From:
Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2011 5:22 pm
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Tony, normally the tuning on the bass neck is A A A A E E A A and the bottom 2 A's are an octave below the next 2 A's The E's are the same as the bottom string on a bass guitar.
When the bass comes in, at D, all of the "melodic" notes are the C scale with an F#, so everything is a D Mixolydian, which means it's going somewhere. I do a slow roll down to C and everything is now C Lydian, a place of rest.
I play the rods with a hammered dulcimer hammer and a violin bow. That concert was outdoors, and at the beginning of my time, a small plane was flying overhead which I tried to harmonize with. The audience enjoyed that.
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| Our instrument is assured a future with so many varied uses, from stone cold country to your pieces. |
My session tomorrow is a follow up to a 12 hour session and a 17 hour session where the steel guitar had to do everything except country music.
Norm, thank you for letting me hijack your thread. |
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Dom Franco
From:
Beaverton, OR, 97007
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Daniel Morris
From:
Westlake, Ohio, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2011 6:09 am
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| No disrespect intended to anyone, but how could Chas's link be "off-topic"? |
Only this from Chas:
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| Norm, thank you for letting me hijack your thread. |
I have NAKADAI on LP, from when it was first issued, so I've always been interested in steel in other contexts. I only meant that posts veered a bit from the original "show me your 10 string lap steels".
In case you missed it, there's a really fine and continuing thread for "Different Styles", where Chas naturally comes up.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=208507&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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1979 MSA U12 Pedal Steel
1982 Kline U12 Pedal steel
2019 Sierra U12 Pedal Steel
2011 Bear Creek MK Weissenborn
Milkman 40W Mini amp w/Telonics 15" speaker.
Dr. Z Surgical Steel w/TT 15" speaker.
Frenzel MB-50 head.
Spaceman, Empress, Eventide, Pigtronix. |
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