Different Styles

Anders Eriksson · Post by **Anders Eriksson** » 27 Aug 2011 10:06 am

The show is called CMT Outlaws and I think that your clip is this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2Lt9Hq6EEQ

// Anders

Elton Smith · Post by **Elton Smith** » 27 Aug 2011 11:48 am

I agree Mike.A kid I have taught to play over the years came by to do some pickin last nite and told me I always pick out the hardest licks to play.I told him learning is learning it matters not how hard it is because your here to learn not play.A guy once told me.If we all liked the same thing,there never would have been any choc. ice cream.

Elton Smith · Post by **Elton Smith** » 27 Aug 2011 11:49 am

By the way those cd's are great.Thanks so much. Elbo

Jerry Overstreet · Post by **Jerry Overstreet** » 27 Aug 2011 11:49 am

Anders, thanks a lot for the comprehensive link on these videos. Lot of work, I know, but greatly appreciated.

Thanks for opening this discussion Elton. It's been done before in bits and pieces, but nothing with this kind of participation and without a lot of negativity.

There should be a link of some kind to this thread for others who are interested in the range of styles steel guitar has been and continues to be involved in.

Mike Daly · Post by **Mike Daly** » 28 Aug 2011 12:53 pm

Anders...Thanks for the posting of the video link. Being a part of that show and playing with James Hetfield and Bob Rock was as you can imagine...fun.... Elton...Glad you are enjoying the CD's.

Justin Jacobson · Post by **Justin Jacobson** » 28 Aug 2011 3:39 pm

Mike: Outlaws of country was the only show I ever watched on CMT. Very cool that you got to do that.

Here's another great unique approach to steel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dTFajHVyHo

David Mason · Post by **David Mason** » 28 Aug 2011 5:19 pm

There should be a link of some kind to this thread for others who are interested in the range of styles steel guitar has been and continues to be involved in.

I just bookmarked the first page, and then you can come back to it any time and check the new additions. If you stickied it, it would freeze it.

Justin Jacobson · Post by **Justin Jacobson** » 2 Sep 2011 5:06 am

This is an orchestral pop band that uses steel in almost every song they do. Sometimes you can't really tell it's there but it is.

The Heavy Blinkers
Here is one with some noticeable steel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wORH1T1o ... re=related
And one where the steel is buried real good, just a few pings here and there..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw_4-U8gQGU

Another band along the same vein:

The Polyphonic Spree
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmaZFV8g ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9gk1PGZxaE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP-aH2v2 ... re=related

Elton Smith · Post by **Elton Smith** » 2 Sep 2011 3:11 pm

I would like to thank all the posters so far.I think there has been some steel posted here the forum has never heard.This is your thread.Please keep um coming.Thanks so much Elbo.As a learning steel guitar player,these are all bullets for your gun.Thanks again

Duncan Hodge · Post by **Duncan Hodge** » 3 Sep 2011 10:54 am

I don't know if this one has already been posted, but it appears to be pretty standard steel in a not so standard format.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1IoIcAId78

Daniel Morris · Post by **Daniel Morris** » 3 Sep 2011 5:08 pm

Dang, Justin, you DO find some out of the way stuff!
Polyphonic Spree - catchy, poppy, almost '60s-ish vibe.
Nice!

Duncan: No, I don't think I've seen that clip. Nice as well!

Just ran across this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKo0mW8e ... re=related
whilst looking for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTMQh7MJamk
and then found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKwgzykK ... re=related
as well as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRTB7F0H ... re=related
and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR-YWUDn ... re=related

BJ Cole was one one of my earliest heroes and influences. I so much prefer the above CLAIRE DE LUNE to the one on CD - no synthesizer (overdone), just a beautiful pedal steel solo.

Daniel Morris · Post by **Daniel Morris** » 3 Sep 2011 5:37 pm

Sorry, one last one with BJ Cole:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CFQVal1IUI

Many more examples of BJ - from hip-hop/electronica to straight country - on youtube.

Justin Jacobson · Post by **Justin Jacobson** » 6 Sep 2011 6:47 am

Justin Jacobson · Post by **Justin Jacobson** » 6 Sep 2011 9:57 am

Daniel Morris · Post by **Daniel Morris** » 6 Sep 2011 12:38 pm

WOW, that's a fantastic selection, Justin!!
Gonna take a bit of time to get to them all.

Pete Drake with George Harrison, Ron Wood with Rod Stewart, Sneaky Pete with Frank Zappa, Bruce Kaphan with Thomas Dolby, Olivia Newton-John http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCaiat__ ... re=related, didn't know there was steel on THE BOXER, Motley frickin' Crue?! - dang, steel's everywhere!!

Yes, Tom Waits is a genius in my book.
He uses steel now and then, to great effect.
Here's a track from ORPHANS, the BAWLERS disc,
steel by Bobby Black!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uTARf5TzPQ

Nice to know our instrument isn't disparaged by all artists and producers...

Justin Jacobson · Post by **Justin Jacobson** » 7 Sep 2011 12:37 pm

Yeah I binged a bit yesterday looking for some cool steel. Glad to have a place to put all this unique steel, thanks again to everyone who's been adding to the thread, I love coming back and finding some new stuff.

Daniel, I actually took the bus from Chicago to Columbus in 2006 to see Mr. Waits. Hands down the best show I have ever been to.

Just to keep people busy with steel.

Steely Dan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC8_KGHbrOI

Bad Religion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnRKl6nSypg

Smashing Pumpkins:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkwmHWMBtSI

Tweet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ44yrZD ... re=related

Brian McKnight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKeFqvckXvY

Matchbox 20:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLaLsNkaEq8

Beck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE2zf4-qbG4

Robbie Williams:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQlEb2VtSXg

Crowded House:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Sw5WOlNUI4

The Crash Test Dummies:
http://www.last.fm/music/Crash+Test+Dum ... The+Voyage

Elton Smith · Post by **Elton Smith** » 8 Sep 2011 7:39 pm

Guys this has got to be some of the best steel playing on the planet.Thanks so much Elbo

Justin Jacobson · Post by **Justin Jacobson** » 10 Sep 2011 1:59 pm

SO I was watching some Leonard Cohen videos today. And realized he had a pedal steel player with him when I saw him here a few years a go. I can't remember which songs had steel on them but the man played for 3+ hours so I am sure there were more than the one I found.

Leonard Cohen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUfS8LyeUyM

And just to get a bit out there
Einstürzende Neubauten:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR0P6vUnnaQ

Daniel Morris · Post by **Daniel Morris** » 10 Sep 2011 3:22 pm

Hey, Justin:
I checked some live versions of LET'S DO IT A DADA, and can't find a slide or steel. Seems to be guitar, unless there's some documentation to the contrary.
However, the former Led Zeppelin bassist John Paul Jones does play bass steel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCMjAdqt ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUWA8aZZ ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUygDMFc ... re=related

Leonard Cohen - great!

KMFDM actually had a bit of steel, by Marc Durante.
(Hard to pick out, but it's there, according to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Durante)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdmhFhxJ ... re=related

Marc's better known (to us) for his role in the Waco Brothers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdmhFhxJ ... re=related

And I can't forget the great Rubber Rodeo, a relatively short-lived cowpunk band, with pedal steel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04YBqwp0 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWEug9Vd ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDqthYKc-aM
On the SCENIC VIEW they did an excellent instrumental, CIVIL WAR. Find it if you can.

Justin Jacobson · Post by **Justin Jacobson** » 10 Sep 2011 4:17 pm

Daniel, I found out about through the discogs track listing
http://www.discogs.com/Einst%C3%BCrzend ... se/1127570
Of course, knowing them they could have been snipping strings off a tuned steel and recording the sounds.

I remember reading about John Paul Jones bass steel, but I had never heard it before. pretty cool.

And I hadn't listened to KMFDM since High school but I could hear some steel on there. Nice find.

Daniel Morris · Post by **Daniel Morris** » 10 Sep 2011 4:24 pm

Yea, "invented" instruments may not be a category at discogs. Couldn't see anything sliding in the live performances, but that doesn't mean it's not on the recording.

John Norris · Post by **John Norris** » 16 Sep 2011 10:44 am

And just to get a bit out there
Einstürzende Neubauten:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR0P6vUnnaQ

Neubauten's Blixa Bargeld has a Carter S10. Its about the only normal instrument in the band

Elton Smith · Post by **Elton Smith** » 16 Sep 2011 3:33 pm

I just did my first professonal recording with a pedal steel.Guys you could not have drove a straight pin up my ass with a sledge hammer.We got thru it tho.Thanks family!

Christopher Fedak · Post by **Christopher Fedak** » 17 Sep 2011 6:11 am

^That analogy (heh) is kinda painful.

I've been a bit hesitant to post this, as it's not really a 'different style', but it's quite possibly the first exposure I had to the instrument, even if I didn't know what exactly it was. IMO it sure is a pretty sound. And besides, Plant & JPJ have already been mentioned...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54j_WI4OPqs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3oh6RJ1ps8&NR=1

And speaking of JPJ, this is actually him on lap steel and *not* Page, way back in'70:

http://youtu.be/8JVjfH-m1p0

Justin Jacobson · Post by **Justin Jacobson** » 20 Sep 2011 11:36 am

Elton, congrats on the session. Hope to hear it sometime. maybe some of these musical outliers for steel crept into your playing.

Christopher: I think the heart of this thread was styles of music aside from country that have steel in it. We may have drifted from that but the Zepplin counts. I rarely listen to III so I kinda forgot there was steel on there.

I know my morning jacket has been mentioned but I just heard this track on the radio yesterday and thought the steel was really interesting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y34tkb3Ee7s