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Topic: Suggestions on 4th pedal E9th |
Keith Hilton
From:
248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 17 Aug 2011 9:23 am |
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I am wanting to try something different on the 4th pedal hooked to my E9th. I would like some suggestions of what would be a nice change to put on the 4th pedal.
My first pedal raises 5&10 whole tone. My second pedal raises 3&6 a half tone. My 3rd pedal raises 4&5 a whole tone. The location of my 4th pedal is next to the 3rd pedal not the 1st pedal. Some have suggested I lower 5&6 a whole tone. I have heard that is part of the Franklin change. Is there "ANYTHING" besides a nice 'lick' that is obtained by this change? Seems pretty lame if all you can get is just a 'lick' out of the change. |
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Tim Heidner
From:
Groves, TX
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Posted 17 Aug 2011 9:57 am
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| I've been mulling over putting a 3 and 6 half tone lower in there somewhere. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 17 Aug 2011 10:18 am
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Add the E to D# lower on 4 to the 5 & 6 whole tone lower and you have a real sweet 7th type chord. That would be a B7 at the open fret (same fret as the 7th with the A pedal and the E lower to D#). A real purty sounding 7th.
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Doug Palmer
From:
Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 17 Aug 2011 1:24 pm Pedal 4
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Keith, I raise string 6 to A, lower 9 to C# and 10 down to A. It's a nice A6/9 and if I use a knee with it to raise 7 F# to G it is a very useful A7/9.
Doug
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Keith Hilton
From:
248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 17 Aug 2011 8:31 pm
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| I am getting the picture. I will probably try lowering 5 and 6 a whole tone with my 4th pedal. You never know if you will like something until you try it on the guitar. |
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Chris Brooks
From:
Providence, Rhode Island
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Posted 18 Aug 2011 8:47 am
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Keith--
As your last posting suggests, I have the 5th and 6th strings drop on my pedal 4.
But think about this possibility (more work though): move A, B, and C over one slot to the right. Then add the first pedal so that it flats G#s to Gs.
I am finding more and more places where this "flatting-the-G#s" is cool.
And thanks for making a great volume pedal, Keith!
Chris |
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Keith Hilton
From:
248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 18 Aug 2011 1:24 pm
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| You are welcome Chris. I am finding there are 3 basic choices when playing pedal steel. #1 Play out of scales with single notes and harmony up and down the neck. #2 Play out of cords and their inversions. #3 Play like Ralph Mooney. Lowering 5 and 6 on the E9th neck a whole tone seems to fit playing choices #1 and #2. Ralph Mooney in most cases pulled or lowered only one string at a time on pedals, not knee levers. I have learned you can not move your knee faster than your foot. I loved it when I had my 4th pedal raising 6 and lowering 3. I have tried every way in the world to get the same thing, but it just doesn't sound the same, even if the notes are the same. I have not tried lowering both 3 and 6, but that sounds really interesting. Why-because the scale of the 5 chord has all the same notes as the root 7th cord. |
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