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Topic: Buddy....cosmic renegade |
chris ivey
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Posted 12 Jun 2011 10:50 am |
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i was just in my car listening to an old cassette of steve young's renegade picker album. it made me realize once again how i connect with the resonance of buddy emmons. something about his tone manipulation and note placement. of course we all know the universe is built on vibrations...resonance...string theory...etc. buddy uses this in a manner that makes my mind and body connect to his take on emotion.
there are hundreds of other incredible pickers who deserve mention , kudos, and props...all of whom deserve accolades..
but everytime i come back to something like this album and steve's voice, buddy's accompaniment just grabs my soul. |
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Buck Reid
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Posted 12 Jun 2011 12:18 pm
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Yeah Chris! There's another Steve Young record from the same time period with Buddy all over it... I think it was titled "No Place To Fall". ? I wore those out for many of the same reasons. Absolutely brilliant!!
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Joachim Kettner
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Posted 12 Jun 2011 12:56 pm
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I was lucky to see and hear Steve Young once in an intimate setting. I only know the albums "Rock, Salt And Nails" and "To Satisfy You". I've heard a few songs that had B. E. playing.
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Jack Stanton
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Posted 12 Jun 2011 5:25 pm
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| Both of those albums have been released in a double CD package. Great music and incredible playing by the Big E! A primer on how it's done. |
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b0b
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Posted 12 Jun 2011 9:10 pm
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Received via email...
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| Not to detract from the Forum members accolades to Buddy Emmons, but to keep the historical record straight since there has been confusion in the past; on the Steve Young 1978 RCA album “No Place To Fall” produced by Roy Dea that is me playing steel on the album’s title song and on “I Closed My Heart’s Door”. |
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Dave Magram
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San Jose, California, USA
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 12:04 am
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"Renegade Picker" has long been one of my favorite albums; Buddy plays so many styles brilliantly on it.
Steve Young's version of Haggard's "I Can't Be Myself When I'm With You" is superb, and Buddy's solo is just heart-wrenching.
It's right up there with "Someday Soon" for Buddy's ability to wrap around a melody and take the song to a whole new level.
It gives me the chills whenever I listen to it.
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Jelle Biel
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 12:24 am Totaly agree,,what a monster ALBUM,,but
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Totaly agree,,,, what a monster ALBUM 
(with the best best musicians of those days ao;The Big E-Johnny Gimble-Terry McMillan-Bobby Wood-Dale Sellars-Mike Leech- )
At that time (mid/end 70's)of the album Renegade Picker
we toured with Steve Young around The Netherlands ,we
tried to backup him with 'more or les' like the sound of
that album with the best players we have/had here in
Europe ao; some of the united steels ao Nils Tuxen and my brother Koos.
But before we played one note he sayd that he wanted to play accoustic and that he NEVER LIKED the music sound and way of playing of that recording  !!
Our mouth felt OPEN 
Here some songs on the left.
http://www.playtable-music.com/detail.php?ItemId=B00005NOTC
STEVE YOUNG a Outlaw Country/Rock-STAR,TROUBADOUR 
Jelle
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Olli Haavisto
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 1:24 am
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Great albums.
Great times, major labels putting out stuff like this.......
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Buck Reid
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 4:39 am
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Thanks b0b. I certainly meant no disrespect to my friend Lloyd and I appreciate the record being set straight. It's been so long I wasn't even sure I had the album title right. Sorry Lloyd!
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 6:16 am
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Lloyd Green wrote:
Not to detract from the Forum members accolades to Buddy Emmons, but to keep the historical record straight since there has been confusion in the past; on the Steve Young 1978 RCA album “No Place To Fall” produced by Roy Dea that is me playing steel on the album’s title song and on “I Closed My Heart’s Door”. |
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But before we played one note he sayd that he wanted to play accoustic and that he NEVER LIKED the music sound and way of playing of that recording !!
Our mouth felt OPEN |
After all the misplaced accolades here and the admission by the artist that he never liked the music on the album, I'm now curious as to what has become of him since?? I was actively playing in 1978, but he must have been flying way under the radar for me to not ever hear of him.  |
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Joachim Kettner
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 6:39 am
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Barry, you may have been to busy playing and did not read the music papers or check the record stores.
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 6:45 am
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| Just commenting that there was no buzz about him in my circle of friends. We were all pretty up on things back then as far as who was hot and who was not, and there was never a mention of him as I recall. This was in California, if that would make a difference ….. |
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Joachim Kettner
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 7:50 am
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I admit that I read too many music papers, instead of playing music. Back on topic, the song for which he is most well known for, is "Seven Bridges Road" by the Eagles.
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 10:02 am
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i met steve at a small show about ten years ago. it was at the palms playhouse in davis. just steve and his martin guitar which had a 'huge' sound with his powerful unique voice. he was very personable and we even exchanged cds. he is a real talent!
what jelle says about steve's take on the recordings is disconcerting. i would have thought steve loved that sound...but you know those special people don't become special by being predictable. thanks for that insight, jelle. |
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Bo Borland
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 10:17 am
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| I checked his Wiki and his website... as the writer of Lonesome Ornery & Mean...plus a couple other big hits.. he has serious writing credits. |
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Glenn Suchan
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 10:19 am Re: Totaly agree,,what a monster ALBUM,,but
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| I admit that I read too many music papers, instead of playing music. Back on topic, the song for which he is most well known for, is "Seven Bridges Road" by the Eagles. |
Joachim, I might be misunderstanding what you've 'said', but "Seven Bridges Road" was not written by the Eagles. Steve Young is the author. Here's a great (recent) live version of the song, as performed by Steve.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgqoTDRLhfc ...Breathtaking, if you ask me....
Other big hits written by Steve Young are "Montgomery in the Rain" (popularized by Hank Williams Jr.) and "Lonesome O'nry and Mean" (popularized by Waylon Jennings). Here are Steve Young's versions:
"Montgomery in the Rain" (with Pete Drake on Steel):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5vFXFjqeBg
"Lonesome O'nry and Mean" a recent live video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cHtpkAqb4Q
Here are two more favorites by Steve:
"Alabama Highway"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEQp1xDamaE
"The Ballad of William Sycamore (from a Stephen Vincent Benet poem) (Pete Drake on steel):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhpI0LL9Byk
| Jelle Biel wrote: |
At that time (mid/end 70's)of the album Renegade Picker
we toured with Steve Young around The Netherlands ,we
tried to backup him with 'more or les' like the sound of
that album with the best players we have/had here in
Europe ao; some of the united steels ao Nils Tuxen and my brother Koos.
But before we played one note he sayd that he wanted to play accoustic and that he NEVER LIKED the music sound and way of playing of that recording, !! our mouth felt OPEN |
Regarding the albums Renegade Picker and No Place to Fall, these are 'desert island discs' as far as I'm concerned, and the session musicians are legendary and played magnificently. However, when one considers how well Steve Young performs, it's not a stretch to understand his pride in his craft as a solo act.
Keep on pickin'!
Glenn
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Joachim Kettner
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 10:32 am
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Glenn, I should have written made popular, or perfomed by the Eagles. Thanks!
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Marty Muse
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 12:53 pm
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| To me, the really special thing about this time period of recording is that somebody finally figured out that if you put the names of the musicians that played on it on the album cover it could actually help them sell a few records. When I discovered the pedal steel in the mid 70s I spent many an hour scouring the record bins and checking out the credits. If there was a pedal steel listed more often than not I bought it. The names were all new to me at the time, but very quickly the names Buddy Emmons, Lloyd Green, Bobby Black, Sneaky Pete, Doug Jernigan, etc., etc., etc., became the main selling point for any recording that I ran across. I ran across some great music this way. I also ran across a lot of mediocre records with GREAT steel guitar on them. |
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Glenn Suchan
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 1:04 pm
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Marty, you and I had the same modus operandi!  I spent many hours scouring the bins at Rose Records, on Wabah Ave. in Chicago with the same intention of finding any and all (if possible) records with steel players on them. Thanks for the reminder of my formative years. 
Keep on pickin'!
Glenn
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 1:33 pm
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However, when one considers how well Steve Young performs, it's not a stretch to understand his pride in his craft as a solo act.
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IMO, that's not an excuse for discrediting his musical accompaniment on those albums. |
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Bo Borland
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 1:58 pm
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| Barry , He wouldn't be the first singer songwriter to not like what a producer did to his tunes. |
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Marty Muse
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Austin,Tx USA
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 2:34 pm
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| Glenn- you and I were not far away geographically speaking either. I was living in the suburbs of Chicago when the steel guitar bug hit me about '74-'75. |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 2:59 pm
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| Barry , He wouldn't be the first singer songwriter to not like what a producer did to his tunes. |
Don't you know it, Bo!  |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 3:17 pm
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| marty and glenn...i did the same 'credit searching' as you guys did! we've probably all heard alot of the same albums. |
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Glenn Suchan
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 3:27 pm
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| Barry Blackwood wrote: |
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However, when one considers how well Steve Young performs, it's not a stretch to understand his pride in his craft as a solo act.
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IMO, that's not an excuse for discrediting his musical accompaniment on those albums. |
Hi Barry! With all due respect, you're assuming the intent of Steve Young's remarks solely on Jelle's paraphrasing of an event that happened 30 plus years ago. I've seen and or met Steve Young on three separate occasions over a 36 year period. Although that isn't very many, he seemed to be a genuinely humble, yet intense individual. Not one prone to denigrating fellow musicians. So, let's ask Jelle.
Jelle, in your recollection, due believe Steve Young was discrediting the session musicians or just remarking on his displeasure over the production and arrangement of the final product.
Keep on pickin'
Glenn
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