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Topic: Thoughts on late model Pro I??? |
Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2011 7:54 pm |
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I am buying one... black-/3+3 that I will be adding pedal/knees to it if I like the guitar. If not, it gets sold I guess..
It has the small pedals, Super Pro 3+2 changer, square front, and pot metal parts from what the owner has described.
Is this changer more likely to stay in tune than other Bud changers?... I have owned 7 Buds over the last 30 years and got rid of every single one as they had trouble staying in tune compared to other brands.
I figured I would try one with the Super Pro changer.
I know it won't sound like the early Professionals or Pro I-II guitars, but its still a Bud, and hopefully will get me close to where I want to be as far as tone is concerned.
I have heard lots of griping about pot metal parts breaking, but just as many guys have had no problems with that set up. Any info would be helpful.
At $1430 shipped with an Emmons volume pedal, an impedance matcher of some type[Ultra Match Box?], and a new set of strings and a bar and picks, it was too good a deal to pass up.
I can't lose money on it... I least I can"t lose much... I hope...
anyway, please let me know the pros and cons of the late model pot metal/ Super Pro style changer Sho Buds...
Its this one..
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=884041
bob
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no gear list for me.. you don't have the time......
Last edited by Bob Carlucci on 23 Apr 2011 4:38 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Nick Reed
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Russellville, KY USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2011 9:00 pm
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Bob,
I thought you were totally DONE with Sho-Bud's forever. Can't you make-up your mind COWBOY! 
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Bob Carlucci
From:
Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2011 4:35 am
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Now Nick, you know the love I have for S 10 Sho Buds,.... Looks,tone, playability, vibe, they are the quintessential pedal steel guitar.
That being said, I have always found them to be temperamental, ornery SOB's when it came to staying in tune. Not only that, I have never seen one that was capable of lowering the high G# a full tone, and I need that change..
I have used that pull since the 70's, and Buds won't do it..
I had a ProIII that did it, after I took the finger out and had it machined for more "pull" on the lower.
Actually, I had the 2nd string finger machined as well because it had problem pulling down a full tone..
That was a 2 and 2 changer, a more modern Bud, yet it still had problems.
So I love Buds, always have, and really do want to reconcile, and play one into my old age.
I just don't want another ornery one, and am hoping I made the right move with the 3 and 2 changer. Thats why I am here asking questions!.... bob
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I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
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Russ Tkac
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Posted 23 Apr 2011 9:00 am
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Check your PM.
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2011 10:56 am
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My personal experience:
I currently have two Super-Pro era Sho-Buds: a Super Pro I've had for 27 years, and an LDG I've had for maybe five. They both stay in tune very, very solidly. No problems whatsoever. So much so that I generally just tune the open strings; very seldom even bother to check the tuning of the changes--I used to do it routinely, but they are so stable that it's a waste of time to check them more than once a month. I do always use the same brand and gauges of strings--it's usually when I change the whole set that I check the pulls, and only one or two may need a slight tweak, but not always.
The triple-double changer won't drop the 3rd string a whole step either. I don't have any problem with the 2nd string lower. The mod to the finger described in the Winnie Winston article in issue no.5 of Steel Guitarist magazine about lowering problems would seem to be the solution--sounds like you've applied that before. |
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Bob Carlucci
From:
Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2011 11:28 am
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Thanks Brint.. I was hoping for an answer like yours.. My old Pro III with the 2+2 changer was the most stable of my Buds, but I still needed to keep the wrench on the guitar to make adjustments during a gig, especially right after the lights hit it.
I am aware of the lower finger modification... To be honest, I can just use the first string full tone raise instead of lowering the 3rd.. Its not as much fun, but it will get me where I need to be without doing any mods on the changer.
I was thinking the later the Bud is, the more stable the tuning is. I really hope this is the Bud I have wanted for 30or so years and just never found...
btw, any problem with the dreaded pot metal parts??/ bob
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I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time...... |
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2011 1:29 pm
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Yes, I did have a knee lever bracket snap within the first year after I bought the Super Pro. I immediately replaced all the brackets with aluminum. Problem solved.
The other problem I've had was with one of the pot metal fingers. The Bb lower on the 10th string quit lowering, and while I haven't had it apart (I mean to do so soon), my understanding is that it is most likely because of the lowering finger grinding a deep groove into the pot metal pull finger. I'm looking into changing out all the fingers--James Morehead says he'll have replacements with bearings available soon. |
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