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Topic: Question on tuners |
Andrew Yanchick
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Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2011 9:14 am |
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| I am a newbie and just purchased a d10 sierra.I need to get a tuner for it.I have the cheapies (Korg hand held) but I need something better but not TOO expensive.Any suggestions? |
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Johnny Thomasson
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Texas, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2011 9:34 am
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Peterson Stroboflip is pretty much the standard. Super accurate, presets for pedal steel (E9 and C6), programmable for your own settings... pretty much all you'll ever need. They're about $160; don't know if that busts your budget or not. If so, I'd say save up for one. I wouldn't take for mine.
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Paul Sutherland
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Placerville, California
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Posted 1 Feb 2011 9:34 am
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| Peterson Strobo-Flip. It's well worth whatever extra it might cost. |
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Bob Hoffnar
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Austin, Tx
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Posted 1 Feb 2011 10:31 am
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What you have should work fine. What I do is push my A and B pedals down then tune my E strings straight up on the tuner. Then I tune the rest by ear with harmonics. Once it sounds good I see where everything lands on the tuner and keep track of it. Then I tune to those offsets using the tuner if I need to.
I do the same with the C neck in a way. I push down the A and B pedals then tune the C strings straight up. The rest with harmonics.
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Lee Baucum
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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 1 Feb 2011 1:13 pm
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| I need to get a tuner for it. |
Why do you feel the need to get a different tuner? Is your Korg a chromatic tuner? If so, you should be able to tune your guitar just fine with it. |
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Olie Eshleman
From:
Seattle, WA
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Posted 1 Feb 2011 1:57 pm
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| I agree with Lee, at least until you're gigging and/or using some different temperament you need to program. I have a Sonic research turbo tuner (http://www.turbo-tuner.com/)that is a little less than, and a little smaller than a stoboflip. It does temperaments and is programmable. I like it! |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 2 Feb 2011 12:45 am
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before you start spendin' all kinds of $$$ Andrew, i'd take Bob Hoffnar's advice
tuning your Es, Bs & As to 440,441, or 442 & tuning by harmonics is the way to go
otherwise if you do invest in a tuner, the Peterson strobo flip & stroborack are the most popular, reliable & programmable ones
once you know how to tune w: harùonics, you can enter them into your Peterson & thus have your Sierra's tuning down pat
tuning by harmonics :
the E9 tuning has 2 chords E & B
when you tune, you'll have refer to both
(as well as A w: pedals A & B engaged)
lever E lowers Es a half
lever F raises Es a half
lever G raises F#s a whole
lever D lowers Eb a half
lever V lowers Bs a half
you will be using frets 5 - 7 - 12 - & 4 !
you can get a harmonic on the 4th fret - certainly not as easy as on frets 5,7 & 12
look for it, it's there
here we go :
Open/no pedals for starters - pedals & levers will follow
using harmonics on each :
on left reference tone / on right string to tune
E : string 8 fret 5 / string 4 fret 12
B : string 10 fret 5 / string 5 fret 12
F# : string 5 fret 7 / String 1 fret 12 - string
F# : string 1 fret 12 / string 7 fret 5
G# : string 8 fret 4 ( yep 4) / string 6 fret 5
G# : string 4 ( yep 4 ) / string 3 fret 5
Eb : string 5 fret 4 / string 2 fret 5
E : string 8 w: A&B fret 5 / string 6 w: A&B fret 7
A : string 6 w: A&B fret 5 / string 3 w: A&B fret 12
A : string 6 w: A&B fret 12 / string 9 fret 7
C# : string 5 w: A&B fret 12 / string 10 w: A&B fret 5
C# : string 6 w: B&C fret 4 / string 4 w: B&C fret 7
C# : string 6 w: B&C fret 4 / string 5 w: B&C fret 5
Eb : string 2 fret 12 / string 4 w lever E fret 12
Eb : string 2 fret 12 / string 8 w: lever E fret 5
B(G# lever): string 5 fret 5 / string 7 w: lever G fret 4
G# : string 3 fret 12 / string 1 w: lever G fret 12
F : string 5 w: A&B fret 4 / string 4 w: lever F fret 5
F : string 4 w: lever F fret 12 / string 8 w: lever F fret 5
Bb : string 7 fret 4 / string 5 w: lever V fret 5
Bb : string 5 w: lever V fret 12 / string 10 w: lever V fret 5
D : string 9 fret 5 / string 2 w: lever D fret 12
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when tuning strings 1(F#) - 2(Eb)- 7(F#) note that the root/reference is B ......NOT... E
F# being the fifth & Eb being the third of B :
the fifth of B gets the same treatment/value as the fifth of E
the third of B gets the same treatment/value as the third of E
last but not least (the plot sickens lol)
when tuning F# on string 4 w: pedal C : F# is the root tone since the ref is an F# minor chord
here again it will get it's own treatment/value |
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Steve Hitsman
From:
Waterloo, IL
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Posted 2 Feb 2011 3:29 am
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| Or you can just tune straight up and sweeten your thirds like E does. |
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Eric West
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 2 Feb 2011 10:44 am
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I have had the best luck with Fender's "Stomp Tuner". Goes "In Line" and "on all the time" with no noise that I can hear, and I put it in front of my processor. The LED's are hugely visible, the units are very durable. Less then 50$.
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2011 11:27 am
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| Oh Eric, we KNOW that one of these years you'll get the tuning religion then you'll need a $300 tuner too. |
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Eric West
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Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 4 Feb 2011 5:57 pm
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Dave. This being the "Scripture" I follow as relgiously as I can and PURELY COINCIDENTALLY, way I've tuned the last 35 years, I'd say it's about all the "Religion" I'm gonna be looking for when it comes to "Tunin'":
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Buddy Emmons
Member
From: Hermitage, TN USA
posted 24 May 2004 01:05 PM
My apologies for not explaining up front (Dave D), but I do tune everything ET. Compensation is what I had to deal with tuning the old way but now it’s a thing of the past. I may go a cent or so flat in some cases but strictly to handle temp changes under certain conditions.
Also when I hear a JI steel third in a ET track, flat is the only word I can come up with. -BE- |
I stumbled on the Fender stomp rig a few years back and it was so easy to read, and quiet inline and on, the 50$ tied the deal.
I haven't had too many people try them out that didn't grab one. It's got a bright blue LED in the middle that shows "ET".... If I do "fudge" its sensitive enough do it by the behaviour of the next LED. I forget what each one represents. I think it's 2cents.
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Tim Sergent
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Hendersonville, TN, USA
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Posted 4 Feb 2011 7:21 pm
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I've been using Seiko tuners for the last few years. They have a model called SAT 501S that's really cool. In addition to the needle, it has digital reading in cents. So if you know your settings as far as how flat or sharp you want it...you don't have to guess where the needle is....it shows you digitally.http://www.seiko-sl.co.jp/english/music/products/tuner/sat501.html. And it's only about $30.
They also have a model SAT 800 that I'm gonna pick up tomorrow. Same premise only a little more rugged for road work. |
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Tim Sergent
From:
Hendersonville, TN, USA
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Posted 4 Feb 2011 7:29 pm
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| Well...I thought that link would light up blue. Sorry! |
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