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Topic: I only found two steel guitar covers for Apache |
Sherman Willden
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Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA
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Posted 12 Jan 2011 8:31 am |
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Are there any more steel guitar covers of Apache? Other than the Junior Brown one, here is the one I found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g22jpQNguE
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Sherman Willden
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Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA
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Posted 12 Jan 2011 8:49 am
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Using Bing I found two more; Gerald Ross and Chuck Lettes
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Jerry Overstreet
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Louisville Ky
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Stu Schulman
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Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 12 Jan 2011 8:59 am
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There's a great version on the show prow CD,I can't remember who did it? 
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Stu Schulman
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Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 12 Jan 2011 10:08 am
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I'm an idiot!! It was "Telestar" This cold weather is getting to what's left of my brain. 
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basilh
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United Kingdom
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Posted 14 Jan 2011 10:22 am Maybe only a "Brit" can play it correctly !
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I wonder when someone other than the Shadows is going to play the correct melody that Jerry Lordan wrote ?
You may ask "Who was Jerry Lordan" ?
well:
# Jerry Lordan
# Real Name: Jeremiah Patrick Lordan
# Birth Date: 30th April, 1934
# Died July 24th 1995
# Birth Place: Paddington, London
Click here to find out more..
NOT recorded first by the Shadows, Superb playing by the Shadows, BUT the statement on YouTube about "recorded originally by British group The Shadows " Is incorrect, Jerry Lordan gave the tune to Bert Weedon who recorded it first.. Top Rank records were somewhat lax in releasing it and the Shadows version was released before Bert's.
For the sake of posterity, diligence is essential.
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Gary Meyer
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Sacramento, California, USA
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Posted 15 Jan 2011 9:56 am originally written by Daniel Van Goens
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| The tune was "adapted" from Daniel Van Goens' "Scherzo Op.12 No.2. |
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basilh
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Posted 15 Jan 2011 10:12 am
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Some adaptation, I can't find a part of the piece by Daniel Van Goens that is remotely similar to Apache..
PLEASE post a link to a video performance that highlights the "Adaptation" you hear. |
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Gary Meyer
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Sacramento, California, USA
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Posted 15 Jan 2011 10:20 am see/listen to Gary Karr's performance
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| on the University of Wisconsin-Madison continuing Education in the arts division of university outreach production @ 1:20:10 |
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Andy Sandoval
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Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 15 Jan 2011 12:57 pm
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| The only version I'm familiar with is by Jørgen Ingmann |
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Posted 15 Jan 2011 1:22 pm
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What a coincidence... I was just working on this tune last night!
Question about the chords on the Intro: the Shadows play Am, D, Am, D, and the Ventures play Am, Dm, Am, Dm (on the Intro). Which chord pattern is considered "correct"? I like the sound of the Dm in that part more than the D, but the Shadows recorded the song before the Ventures, and they played D. Both recorded in the early 60s.
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basilh
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United Kingdom
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Posted 15 Jan 2011 1:34 pm
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Surely the Am D should be correct for the intro.. BECAUSE the chords of the first part are also Am-D-Am Am-D-Am then Dm-G-Dm etc. so the precedence is set for the 1minor 4 major change ..
Also Bert weedon's version used the same changes as the Shadows and their two versions were approved by the composer..QED |
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 15 Jan 2011 2:33 pm
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I recorded a version on CD which is guitar first, steel ride, guitar ride, fade out. I changed the key to Em instead of Am so I'd be able to use lower strings. You can hear it by going to the VCMA website which is www.virginiacma.com and click on "News" then click on the CD announcement at the bottom of the page and then click on "Apache".....JH in Va.
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basilh
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United Kingdom
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Posted 15 Jan 2011 4:04 pm
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| Click Here to hear Jerry's great version.. |
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Brian Doyle
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Guisborough, Cleveland, U.K.
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Posted 16 Jan 2011 9:39 am Apache
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| Doug lets here your Apache |
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 16 Jan 2011 10:11 am
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I remember the Bert Weedon version. The one we're most familiar with is the Shadows version, which got into the charts. Hank Marvin's playing is difficult to beat, and I think he's one of the most underrated guitarists of our time. 
At the time the Shadows version was in the charts I was still at school and my only guitar was a Rosetti Lucky 7, the same guitar Paul McCartney started out on. Apache was the first solo I ever learned, though in those days I wasn't as much concerned with the chords as playing just the single notes. 
Although we all bought Bert Weedon's instruction book Play-in-a-Day we really aspired to emulate Hank Marvin; Bert was regarded as the previous generation, although, looking back, he probably wasn't that old at the time.
I also like the Ventures version. |
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basilh
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United Kingdom
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Posted 16 Jan 2011 3:23 pm Re: Apache
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| Brian Doyle wrote: |
| Doug lets here your Apache |
"Hear hear"("hȳran), I do hope we hear it here.. |
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Alan Tanner
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Near Dayton, Ohio
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Posted 16 Jan 2011 5:27 pm
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| The only version I'm familiar with is by Jørgen Ingmann |
Me too...but don't know who or which was first. |
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basilh
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 17 Jan 2011 2:01 am
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| Alan Tanner wrote: |
| Andy Sandoval wrote: |
| The only version I'm familiar with is by Jørgen Ingmann |
Me too...but don't know who or which was first. |
Hi Alan, if you read the post from the top you'll see that the tune was written by a British Composer and recorded first by Bert Weedon, but Top Rank Records were slow in releasing it and in the meantime Jerry Lordan (The composer) had moved record labels and gave it to the Shadows who he was touring with on the same show, they had the definitive hit with it. Top Rank then took the finger out and rush released Bert's version but EMI with all their might just blew it away with superior marketing.
From the link I gave earlier;-
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| Through a chance meeting with Jerry- brought together while on tour with the Shadows- "Apache" was suggested despite already having been canned by Bert Weedon. The rest, as they say, is history. Although Top Rank rushed their version into the shops following the Shadows' release, and despite the strength of the number, Bert Weedon sank almost without trace. The reaction to the Shadows version was amazing and "Apache" was to provide the template for a very long string of subsequent successes by the group. |
More info on the "Five Chesternuts, Drifters, Shadows" version HERE
And they're playing it HERE |
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Andy Sandoval
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Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 17 Jan 2011 9:17 am
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| So, was the Shadow's version more popular in England and Jørgen Ingmann's recording more popular here in the states? |
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 17 Jan 2011 11:38 am
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The version that I remembered most was the Jorgen Ingmann recording. His version was played on "American Bandstand" if I remember correctly.....JH in Va.
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Charles Davidson
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Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 17 Jan 2011 1:24 pm
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Jorgen's version was my favorite. Think it was around 61 I was playing sixstring at the time. I had at the time [in my opinion the best ever made] a delay unit [THE ECHOLETTE][Not to be confused with the Echoplex ] Could do a fair version of Jorgen's cut. The Echolette was wonderful but expensive [no kidding] I took out a bank loan to by it.Anyone familier wth it. YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.
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