I Give Up

Joe Drivdahl · Post by **Joe Drivdahl** » 10 Jan 2011 10:25 am

Well... I have given up on contemporary country music. I have heard "that" song enough now. In my book, it is about one step above rap, a genre I thought would go the way of Disco years ago. Actually, I would much rather listen to disco than country these days.

So, in an attempt to escape this racket they call music these days, I have dialed my radio to PBR. Now I get to hear classical music, which I never particularly cared for, but at least it is music. I wonder, has anyone ever played classical music on the steel? I suppose they have, but I can't say I've ever heard it. It would certainly make classical a little more tolerable. The jazz on PBR is pretty good sometimes, but of course, no steel.

Happy New Year, everyone.

Joe

Charlie McDonald · Post by **Charlie McDonald** » 10 Jan 2011 10:32 am

You must check out Mike Perlowin's catalog, included on music available from b0b. From Russia to Spain, France, he has lots of my favorite music on steel.

Bill McCloskey · Post by **Bill McCloskey** » 10 Jan 2011 11:22 am

Personally, I've never found a genre I didn't like. There are even some disco songs that are fun when they come up in a dance setting. I personally never had a problem with hip hop, rap or whatever you call it. I've found that in most cases, when you hate an entire "genre" of music, you usually haven't delved into it deeply enough to find the good stuff.

I personally don't listen to country at all but I don't have any issue with it, and I certainly wouldn't rule it out, and I've listened to a lot of it and have my favorites.

On new years eve I took someone to their first jazz concert to hear dr. Lonnie Smith and his big band. The person was amazed, had no idea that what she was hearing was jazz and fell it love with it.

I've heard rappers just control an audience, have them on their feet, and some of the most intense audience participation I've ever heard.

Never understood to need to lock out a complete genre of music. You may like one person more than another, but as duke ellington said: there are two types of music, good and bad. Genres don't fall into that and I can't imagine the duke ever saying there are two types of genres.

my 2 cents.

Pete Finney · Post by **Pete Finney** » 10 Jan 2011 11:29 am

I have dialed my radio to PBR. Now I get to hear classical music, which I never particularly cared for, but at least it is music...The jazz on PBR is pretty good sometimes...

If you drink enough of it I guess anything would sound good, but the stuff gives me a headache...!

Joe Drivdahl · Post by **Joe Drivdahl** » 10 Jan 2011 11:31 am

You may like one person more than another, but as duke ellington said: there are two types of music, good and bad. Genres don't fall into that and I can't imagine the duke ever saying there are two types of genres.

I agree totally with that statement; however, I doubt Duke was including Rap in his description. Rap doesn't qualify as music; poetry maybe. I don't need to delve any deeper into that genre. You hear one song and you've pretty much heard it all. Same beat, same noise, same crap. Not interested.

There are some decent songs among the new country mess, but one has to tolerate too much junk in between. No thanks.

Joe

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 10 Jan 2011 11:34 am

Joe Drivdahl wrote: I wonder, has anyone ever played classical music on the steel?
Happy New Year, everyone.
Joe

Well Chopin Etude Opus 10 No.3 (Tristesse)
and Swedish Rhapsody
Brahm's Lullabye Sorry about the quality of the sound on this one, there IS a reason..

Brint Hannay · Post by **Brint Hannay** » 10 Jan 2011 11:47 am

Georg Sørtun wrote:You will find "Canon in D major by Johann Pachelbel" on Buddy Emmons "Black record".
It is one of my favorites... 8)

I believe you mean the "Rainbow" album.

Joe Drivdahl · Post by **Joe Drivdahl** » 10 Jan 2011 11:48 am

Very Nice, basilh. Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed it.

Joe

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 10 Jan 2011 11:59 am

I can't listen to that old stuff all the time.

Joe Drivdahl · Post by **Joe Drivdahl** » 10 Jan 2011 12:04 pm

Hey T! I can. I like it. In fact, I in high school all I had were 13 Merle Haggard tapes in my pickup. If you rode around with me, you listened to Merle and the Strangers. It don't get no better so why stray?

Thanks,

Joe

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 10 Jan 2011 12:06 pm

I like diversity to much !

Joe Drivdahl · Post by **Joe Drivdahl** » 10 Jan 2011 12:11 pm

Hey you know what they say, Once you've heard the best, the rest are kind of a disappointment. Hag's the best, F*** the rest.

Joe[/list]

Charles Davidson · Post by **Charles Davidson** » 10 Jan 2011 12:28 pm

Joe, try some Dale Watson.You may like him.

YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.

Bill McCloskey · Post by **Bill McCloskey** » 10 Jan 2011 12:42 pm

Joe,

You are more than welcome not to like rap or listen to it.

But, hiphop is indeed music and has probably been the most influential genre of music in the last 20 years. And there are good and bad like in any music.

But I won't try and convince you.

Allan Jirik · Post by **Allan Jirik** » 10 Jan 2011 1:08 pm

I haven't tuned in a Top 40 country station in 30 years. When Dolly Parton came out with "Love is Like a Butterfly" I knew the party was over. That's not to say good country music isn't being performed and recorded, you just have to know where to look for it.

David Mason · Post by **David Mason** » 10 Jan 2011 1:32 pm

Doug Livingston (posts here as Earnest Bovine) is a great classical steel guitarist, I have a few cuts of his stashed playing sections Bach's Sonatas & Partitas for solo violin... but they're old, and he's said he actually likes the cello suites better for steel guitar.

I think he and Perlowin are having a contest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vz_1lC51z0

Mike claims that his "Spanish Steel" is just proof that he's gotten good at using multitracking, but there are licks on there that would boggle 97.5% of really good steel guitarists. A lot of music - rock, country, jazz - evolved around the structure of specific instruments and what they could do well, and the classical guys often wrote for specific instruments and performers. So, violin licks are devilish hard to do right on a steel - heck, it's all there right in front of you, right? Ri-ight....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsauScWx8hY

and, these guys are a terrifying new discovery:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbLqRh7_aiM

Yes, you have to watch all six. The younger guy tackles jazz in #1, and there are bits of various classical pieces scattered throughout. I never even heard of these guys till a few weeks back.

Billy Tonnesen · Post by **Billy Tonnesen** » 10 Jan 2011 1:55 pm

There's a middle ground between Classic Country and New Country, called "Western Swing"/ Try it, you might like it !

i.e., "Asleep At The Wheel", "Timejumpers", "Lucky Stars", etc.

Joe Drivdahl · Post by **Joe Drivdahl** » 10 Jan 2011 3:02 pm

Bill McCloskey wrote:Joe,

You are more than welcome not to like rap or listen to it.

But, hiphop is indeed music and has probably been the most influential genre of music in the last 20 years. And there are good and bad like in any music.

But I won't try and convince you.

Oh don't worry, I won't like it or listen to it, unless I go to hell when I die and that's what's playing there (which is probably true and where it belongs).

Hiphop may have influenced music but not in a good way.

My problem with Rap is this: It doesn't take any talent to do it. Its not something you have to study for years to master. I could start doing Rap tomorrow and be just as good at it as I would twenty years later. Its just talking... oh and cussing too. I must admit, however, that a real masterpiece, a truly timeless classic is a song entitled "F**k You" by Lil Wayne. What an intellect it must have taken to think that one up.

So I appreciate your not trying to convince me.

Joe

Joe Drivdahl · Post by **Joe Drivdahl** » 10 Jan 2011 3:05 pm

Billy Tonnesen wrote:There's a middle ground between Classic Country and New Country, called "Western Swing"/ Try it, you might like it !

i.e., "Asleep At The Wheel", "Timejumpers", "Lucky Stars", etc.

Absolutely! Love Western Swing, Bob Wills is still the King. However, don't hear it around here. I do most of my music appreciation in my pickup with its AM/FM radio. Not much Swing on Montana radio. Used to be some bluegrass, but even that has gone extinct.

Joe

Joe Drivdahl · Post by **Joe Drivdahl** » 10 Jan 2011 3:09 pm

Theresa Galbraith wrote:I like diversity to much !

Theresa,
Admittedly, my Merle selection had its limitations as far as diversity goes, but what about today's country? It all sounds that same to me. There's little diversity in the music that makes the top 40 countdown. Everyone is copying whatever is hot. Where is the diversity in that?

Joe

Sherman Willden · Post by **Sherman Willden** » 10 Jan 2011 3:35 pm

It makes you wonder if today's Pop artists are offended or appreciative by today's C&W performing only like the Pop genre.

Charles Davidson · Post by **Charles Davidson** » 10 Jan 2011 3:37 pm

Joe,Don't think I agree with you on everything, BUT on the rap crap you are one thousand percent right. Don't care who defends it,No musical value there,not even worth wasting breath debating. YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.

Stuart Legg · Post by **Stuart Legg** » 10 Jan 2011 4:32 pm

Contemporary Country is more about the when than how the song is presented.
Today's country music is Contemporary Country of the 2010s and the 2011s.
To get away from Contemporary Country music 1930 to the present is the same as saying getting away from country music.
Music is anything you can hear.
That includes Rap or tennis shoes in the dryer which come to think of it is very similar in a lot of ways.

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