Pedal Rod Lotto-An Update

[Chris Schlotzhauer]

That would take all the fun out of it.

[b0b]

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With only 5 rods, I do hit the jackpot now and then. One chance in 120. Not too remote.

[Bob Vantine]

I always had any rig labeled so anyone could set it up , no matter if it was my PA system or steel .Everything was color coded or tagged .On the very bottom of the rods I took a magic marker GREEN,RED,BLUE and the same on pedals .Once steel is set upright there is no sign of any marks visible .Same goes for legs ,I want the same leg used in the same position everytime .Just a good sized dot on leg & end cap , leg & pedal bar , rods, legs & rod bag .( oh man do I have a problem )
20-25 yrs ago I played with different bands usually having 2 jobs on Saturdays and often other people (usually my kids....thank God for slave labor) would have to get the 2nd gig of the day set up . Cords were color coded with jacks on amps/speakers .

I thought I was just an ***hole , but I guess I really am anal about my equipment

****when I got my last steel June2010...I pulled everything out of the case....scattered everywhere .
I rushed to set it up & when I tore it down I thought I'd double check & YES ,they were in order....I said this ain't happenin again...so I labeled everything !****

[Ian Sutton]

Chris, I think I witnessed you do this with the Derailers here in Boston last year. It took me a minute to figure out what was going on, but I think a few guys threw some dollar bills up on your case before you started pulling rods. Great game, and great playing BTW.

[Jim Smith]

I have some of the band members on board with this, and they like to pull the rods out of the bag one at a time and call the numbers.
I even have had some hot chicks do the honors. They love it.

I had quit playing (Pedal Rod Lotto) since putting some black electrical on each rod at different heights, so I don't have to look at the numbers any more. I may just have to remove the tape and get in on some of this action!

[Mike Perlowin]

The new MSA guitars don't have or need numbered pedal rods. They are all the same length. You adjust the height of the pedals from the little adjusting wheels that raise and lower the pedals.

When I got my first Millennium, it took me lees than 5 minutes to set up all the pedals and knee levers the way I like them.

[Bill Terry]

Mike, maybe MSA would consider making the rods somehow unique for each pedal as a 'custom' option to allow 'Pedal Rod Lotto' participation???? at a slight up-charge of course.

[George Seymour]

Just saw this thread! I do it every time I set up and I've done it only once 1-8 on my Emmons picking them randomly once pulled out of the leg bag and laid up it. Once in 27 years, do remember where though, the lounge at the Tavern Motor Inn in Montpelier

[b0b]

OK Prob & Stat folks, isn't this one of eight factorial? (i.e. one in 40320). I'm probably wrong but it's just off the top of my head and my textbook (from 30 yrs ago) is at home in the shelf.

I believe the correct question formulation is "how many ways can you pull eight items, eight at a time?". I worked it out for 2,3, and 4 rods and it follows the factorial pattern (i.e. eight factorial is 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5 x 6 x 7 x 8 = 40320)

2 rods = 2 ways = 1 x 2
3 rods = 8 ways = 1 x 2 x 3
4 rods = 24 ways = 1 x 2 x 3 x 4
5 rods = 120 ways = 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5
6 rods = 720 ways = 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5 x 6
7 rods = 5040 ways = 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5 x 6 x 7
8 rods = 40320 ways (you get the pattern by now... )

ps: I cheated and put labels on my 3 rods with a Brady labelmaker with big type.

(Credit goes to my prof. Dr. Vinay Pandit /SBU from 6 yrs ago too.)

I thought I was beating the odds because, with 5 rods, I know I pulled them in order at least twice last year. Then I realized that there are two winners: 1 2 3 4 5 and 5 4 3 2 1. So I have 2 chances in 120 of hitting the jackpot (1 in 60).

That explains it. I've never been a "lucky" person. Now for the mathematically challenged:

[Bobby D. Jones]

MSA look under the hook on the rod of the old MSA guitars, there is a number metal stamped on each rod. My old MSA has 3 rods numbered and a Franklin 4th that has a different hook and no number. Was added later I expect. Just how old the MSA is, and you can gamble to. Good Luck Happy Steelin

[Clete Ritta]

...We've added hundreds of forum members since I brought it up last time...I don't want to hear from you 3 pedal guys. That's the Pick 3 game. Only the Pick 8 Powerballers....

I am a relatively new player and one of the hundreds of new forum members,
and started this thread.

BTW, I play Pick 3 (S10 3X5) so you wont hear from me.


Clete