Home recording
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Home recording
Novice here on recording. My goal is to record myself at home for my entertainment and to help improve my playing. The problem is I don't have a clue about the best product to buy. I don't want overkill and a high price for something I don't need. If you have any thoughts on this I would appreciate it mucho. Thanks Jack
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Try Audicity. It's a free download: http://audacity.sourceforge.net
I've been using it to record for years.
I've been using it to record for years.
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Try something like a Yamaha, Zoom, Roland or some other kind of recording console. Most are easy to use and inexpensive. You can pick a good used one up at times on the forum or maybe EBay and then all you will need is a mike and headphones or speakers and you're ready to record. Most boards have fairly good effects also.
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D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes.
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Recording
thanks fellows for the info. Now the hunt is on....
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If your PC based, people are dropping PTools and moving to Reaper. Many of my clients are bringing in their projects on it. It's a wonderful program. It's free as long as you're evaluating it!
http://www.reaper.fm/
http://www.reaper.fm/
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Home recording
Greg, I don't know anything about your clientel, but I don't think there is any mass exodus from ProTools to Reaper. I'm sure Reaper is fine for home recordings, but let's not paint an unrealistic picture here. ProTools is firmly entrenched as the industry standard of audio recording software and that is not going to change anytime soon. I'm sure the demographics are available that will verify those facts.Greg Youngman wrote:If your PC based, people are dropping PTools and moving to Reaper. Many of my clients are bringing in their projects on it. It's a wonderful program. It's free as long as you're evaluating it!
Regards,
David
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Re: Home recording
Have you down loaded it and tried it?David Winfrey wrote:Greg, I don't know anything about your clientel, but I don't think there is any mass exodus from ProTools to Reaper. I'm sure Reaper is fine for home recordings, but let's not paint an unrealistic picture here. ProTools is firmly entrenched as the industry standard of audio recording software and that is not going to change anytime soon. I'm sure the demographics are available that will verify those facts.Greg Youngman wrote:If your PC based, people are dropping PTools and moving to Reaper. Many of my clients are bringing in their projects on it. It's a wonderful program. It's free as long as you're evaluating it!
Regards,
David
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Reaper has now moved far from home recording to the pro ranks in terms of capability. It has many features that Pro Tolls does not and vice versa. It's economical, not a resource hog and treats midi and analog streams pretty much the same. My last Reaper project used 14 compressor on 20 tracks and tons of automated volume envelopes, EQ and 8 channels for drums all running on a standard run of the mill PC. A far as getting tracks down and mastering Reaper does a pro job. Pro Tools excels when you get into pitch correction for vocals and the like. Read the most recent audio forum posts for Pro Tools and Reaper. Reaper is a serious tool. Good enough for the home and the studio!
Jack, I have used most of the available methods for recording as have many others on this forum. You could benefit a lot by visiting with someone who's been through all of this. I just bought a Zoom H4N 2 channel recorder for our church that may be what you need today:
http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Handy-Portab ... 920&sr=8-1
Without knowing your needs in great detail, you could find the Zoom an excellent choice, or you could outgrow it quickly or you could spend even less and get something to meet your needs. Audacity is also a decent choice but pales compared to Reaper.
If you want to avoid using a PC or laptop I would recommend getting a Zoom R16 (room to grow!) or H4N (basic 4 channels). If you like the PC or laptop route then I wold recommend Reaper. With either solution you can mic your amp or record directly (need a USB premap for the PC/laptop).
Greg
Jack, I have used most of the available methods for recording as have many others on this forum. You could benefit a lot by visiting with someone who's been through all of this. I just bought a Zoom H4N 2 channel recorder for our church that may be what you need today:
http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Handy-Portab ... 920&sr=8-1
Without knowing your needs in great detail, you could find the Zoom an excellent choice, or you could outgrow it quickly or you could spend even less and get something to meet your needs. Audacity is also a decent choice but pales compared to Reaper.
If you want to avoid using a PC or laptop I would recommend getting a Zoom R16 (room to grow!) or H4N (basic 4 channels). If you like the PC or laptop route then I wold recommend Reaper. With either solution you can mic your amp or record directly (need a USB premap for the PC/laptop).
Greg
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Well put, Greg. Jack, you're not too far away. If you find yourself down this direction, give me a heads up and we'll chat.Greg Cutshaw wrote:Reaper has now moved far from home recording to the pro ranks in terms of capability. It has many features that Pro Tolls does not and vice versa. It's economical, not a resource hog and treats midi and analog streams pretty much the same. My last Reaper project used 14 compressor on 20 tracks and tons of automated volume envelopes, EQ and 8 channels for drums all running on a standard run of the mill PC. A far as getting tracks down and mastering Reaper does a pro job. Pro Tools excels when you get into pitch correction for vocals and the like. Read the most recent audio forum posts for Pro Tools and Reaper. Reaper is a serious tool. Good enough for the home and the studio!
Jack, I have used most of the available methods for recording as have many others on this forum. You could benefit a lot by visiting with someone who's been through all of this. I just bought a Zoom H4N 2 channel recorder for our church that may be what you need today:
http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Handy-Portab ... 920&sr=8-1
Without knowing your needs in great detail, you could find the Zoom an excellent choice, or you could outgrow it quickly or you could spend even less and get something to meet your needs. Audacity is also a decent choice but pales compared to Reaper.
If you want to avoid using a PC or laptop I would recommend getting a Zoom R16 (room to grow!) or H4N (basic 4 channels). If you like the PC or laptop route then I wold recommend Reaper. With either solution you can mic your amp or record directly (need a USB premap for the PC/laptop).
Greg
Greg
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Reaper
Just returned home from Christmas travel. I haven't had a chance to sit down and digest the new posts here. I also want to take a look at "Reaper". Thanks for the replies fellows. Happy New Year...lets hope.
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What's between?
Billy (or anyone) are you recording direct from the guitar? If so, what is between your guitar and the computer to interface the two? Thanks
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I record guitars direct, I use a tube preamp and a small compressor in line...the compressor is used to give a slight limit to the tall peaks, not a major setting...
Guitar>Preamp>Compressor>PCI MAudio card>Pro-Tools
Within Pro Tools I will add a reverb and another compressor to each track either individually or thru a dedicated aux buss ( for each effect ) which is preferred. By using the aux buss you can use a single reverb ( actually any effect )and send all tracks to that aux buss. Each track also has there own fader for reverb send...a neat trick ! Compared to Sonar, PT makes setting up and routing signals a no brainer. Each track that is assigned to the buss has a floating send fader automatically created for that buss.
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Guitar>Preamp>Compressor>PCI MAudio card>Pro-Tools
Within Pro Tools I will add a reverb and another compressor to each track either individually or thru a dedicated aux buss ( for each effect ) which is preferred. By using the aux buss you can use a single reverb ( actually any effect )and send all tracks to that aux buss. Each track also has there own fader for reverb send...a neat trick ! Compared to Sonar, PT makes setting up and routing signals a no brainer. Each track that is assigned to the buss has a floating send fader automatically created for that buss.
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Jack, Guitar,Presonus Firebox, PC, Reaper. Greg Thanks for turning me on to Reaper, I like it Heres My Favorite part of the house,
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Greg Cutshaw wrote: It has many features that Pro Tools does not and vice versa.
I would be interested to know what Reaper has that Pro-Tools does not offer...
t
Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders
Pro Tools 8 and Pro Tools 12
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 8 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website
Pro Tools 8 and Pro Tools 12
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 8 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website
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Tony's here's one good example of a comparison between the two DAW's showing pluses and minuses.
http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=64721
A big plus is Reaper's price and ease of customization with free 3rd party tools and setups. I agree that huge numbers of people are not going to dump PT for Reaper, although some have at least for some jobs. The thing is that not too long ago Reaper was not half the program it is now. It has come a long ways in a short period of time and is rapidly gaining ground on PT.
Greg
http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=64721
A big plus is Reaper's price and ease of customization with free 3rd party tools and setups. I agree that huge numbers of people are not going to dump PT for Reaper, although some have at least for some jobs. The thing is that not too long ago Reaper was not half the program it is now. It has come a long ways in a short period of time and is rapidly gaining ground on PT.
Greg
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It really doesn't matter what package we use , if the musician/engineer person likes what they have and can play well while recording, they will get good results. The playing factor is still # 1 . It's not the DAW, it's always back on the player.
It's all good..
PT has that elastic feature and the on the fly time thing, these are really nice , I know Sonar does not have those, it appears by the link above that Reaper also does not. Also the PT Smart Tool for editing is a big plus. These are things that I think regular users would use find very valuable.
I saw today that some PT packages start at about $99 with an interface and effects/instrument plug ins...looks like PT has decided to play in the entry market as well.
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It's all good..
PT has that elastic feature and the on the fly time thing, these are really nice , I know Sonar does not have those, it appears by the link above that Reaper also does not. Also the PT Smart Tool for editing is a big plus. These are things that I think regular users would use find very valuable.
I saw today that some PT packages start at about $99 with an interface and effects/instrument plug ins...looks like PT has decided to play in the entry market as well.
t
Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders
Pro Tools 8 and Pro Tools 12
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 8 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website
Pro Tools 8 and Pro Tools 12
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 8 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website
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just to add...
I found this site to be informative
http://www.tweakheadz.com
scroll around the site. I liked the tutorials.
I found this site to be informative
http://www.tweakheadz.com
scroll around the site. I liked the tutorials.
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Tweakheads is a very kool site...There are also excellent tutorials up on U Tube, some fall short but some are really very good with full visuals and very good discussion, quick and to the point....Check them out...
Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders
Pro Tools 8 and Pro Tools 12
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 8 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website
Pro Tools 8 and Pro Tools 12
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 8 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website
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