Emmons Sticker

Jerry Hayes · Post by **Jerry Hayes** » 15 Dec 2010 11:47 am

I went from an old ShoBud S-12 Uni to a BMI Uni about 20 years ago and the first thing I did was take the BMI decal off and put on an Emmons logo which I kept on for a couple of years. As I played it more and more I kept realizing how much better engineered it was than my old 'bud and how much better it sounded so I got another BMI logo and put it back on the guitar and it'll remain there forever. I love BMI guitars and believe they'll compete with anything on the market.

As far as the Carter sticker, I'd leave it on, those folks went to a lot of time and effort to build your guitar so give 'em credit......JH in Va.

Bill Terry · Post by **Bill Terry** » 15 Dec 2010 1:25 pm

Often when they see my carter sticker on my sd 10 they start telling me tiresome Jimmy Carter jokes.

Funny, I've been playing Carters for several years now, and I've never had anybody do that.. you need a new place to play.

That said, I never liked the look of the decals, kinda ugly, and you couldn't read them from very far away anyway, so I bought a couple of the newer 'bubble' logos from Al Brisco. Way cooler...

Walter Glockler · Post by **Walter Glockler** » 15 Dec 2010 4:41 pm

Put your state flag on.

Walter Bowden · Post by **Walter Bowden** » 15 Dec 2010 5:28 pm

Guilty as charged Dickie. Supro amps were pretty good sounding and built well.
I miss little Spiro.
Walter

Jeremy Craft · Post by **Jeremy Craft** » 16 Dec 2010 4:41 am

When you own an instrument, it is your prerogative to do what you want to it to make it your own. Don't like the fretboard? Chuck it at put on one you like. Hate the logo? Remove it--if the manufacturer really wanted it to stay put, he wouldn't use a decal, he'd inlay it. If you think you might resell it, don't do so much to it; odds are, nobody else will want it just the way you like it.

That said, adding a different manufacturer's logo to it sends a message that although you have Brand X, you think that Brand Y is better and you wish you had one, but you're too broke to have a real one.

Putting the logo of some company that has nothing to do with PSGs works though. That's funny.

Curt Langston · Post by **Curt Langston** » 16 Dec 2010 6:12 am

Just play the darn thing and don't wory about the "oval sticker" If you are not liking the guitar, then sell it. It's disrespectful and cheesy to put some jacked up non-original logo on the guitar.

You obviously like it, so be proud of it!

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 16 Dec 2010 7:32 am

Not to get into hyperbole, but there's another issue involved if, say, an Emmons logo was put on a non-Emmons guitar: a threatening lawyers' cease-and-desist letter.

The Emmons logo is trademarked (I assume). Putting that logo on a non-Emmons guitar could be considered, legally, a "dilution of trademark" and damaging to the company.

C.F. Martin, Gibson, and Fender are all VERY protective of their logos, as well they should be. There have been lawsuits over this issue.

John F. and I had a related discussion years ago about a fellow he knew of who took the Carter logo off his guitar because he didn't care for the esthetic look of the decal. John was pissed off about it, understandably. He agreed the fellow had the legal right to do it, but he said "I'll never sell HIM another guitar."

I suggested to John, more-than-half-jokingly, that the guy may have voided the warranty. John kind of liked that idea.

Post by **Dave Mudgett** » 16 Dec 2010 8:42 am

Not a new idea:

I believe that yellow steel is a Carter, I got a pretty close look at it when I saw him a couple of years ago, and this has been discussed here a number of times. A rose by any other name - Carter is a really fine guitar no matter whose label is on it. Now perhaps there were contractual issues involved here, I don't know the whys and wherefores. But outside the presence of an endorsement deal, I think the fact that one is playing a particular guitar speaks volumes about what one thinks about it.

I also think this thread shows something else - if you're gonna do something like this, it may be a good idea to just do it and not tell anybody about it. It seems to be just about impossible to avoid offending people with this kind of stuff.

William Lake · Post by **William Lake** » 16 Dec 2010 8:48 am

I can understand not liking the cheesy vinyl sticker. I don't like mine either altho I LOVE the guitar. Just take it off. To put another maker's decal on it is not right.

Fender decals are available for a dime a dozen on ebay. If you put one one a $89 Chinese crap guitar what does that say about you.

If you don't like the decal (Which I understand and agree with)..just take it off and leave the guitar nameless.

John Swain · Post by **John Swain** » 16 Dec 2010 9:06 am

I never liked the old white decal,so replaced it with the newer Black n white raised Logo..I think they really stand out nicely on any finish..JMO...JS

Curt Langston · Post by **Curt Langston** » 16 Dec 2010 12:42 pm

The Emmons logo is trademarked (I assume). Putting that logo on a non-Emmons guitar could be considered, legally, a "dilution of trademark" and damaging to the company.

I wouldn't worry about that at all.

I think the damage and "dilution" has already been done.

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 16 Dec 2010 1:21 pm

Curt Langston wrote:
The Emmons logo is trademarked (I assume). Putting that logo on a non-Emmons guitar could be considered, legally, a "dilution of trademark" and damaging to the company.
I wouldn't worry about that at all.

I think the damage and "dilution" has already been done.

And of course, there are those here who simply wait for any mention of the Emmons Company to disparage them by bringing up old "news."

One of the reasons why some of the folks who inhabit this place has made a few of these forum threads really sucky lately, and why I don't come around much anymore.

Just MHO. Keep on with your hard-ons, if it makes you happy. Include me "out" of you non-stop bitch-fest.

Dickie Whitley · Post by **Dickie Whitley** » 16 Dec 2010 3:12 pm

Cliff Kane · Post by **Cliff Kane** » 16 Dec 2010 3:23 pm

I've often wanted to have a removable graphic to cover the front apron that says "Yamaha DX7" for the people who come up and ask what kind of keyboard I'm playing....how far do you indulge these people?

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 16 Dec 2010 6:34 pm

I have a Miller PSG which a previous owner has put a Sho-Bud logo on. I've no idea why.

If you don't like the Carter logo just cover it up with a nameplate with your own name on it.

(Unless your name happens to be Carter, which would defeat the object.)

Stephen Gambrell · Post by **Stephen Gambrell** » 17 Dec 2010 1:55 am

Mike Perlowin wrote:I agree with Bob Hoffnar. If you are happy with the guitar, you should leave the logo in place so people can see what you're playing. If some people diss you for playing a Carter because of their feelings about our former president, that just shows how stupid and foolish they are. And if you are ashamed to be playing a Carter, then play something else.

Don't know that it could be put any better. Anybody that knows steel guitars would be able to spot the difference from 50 feet away. And if they DON'T know anything about steel guitar, then what difference does it make.

Buck Dilly · Post by **Buck Dilly** » 17 Dec 2010 3:35 am

I have a "Hello Kitty" Emblem that I got on the Web. I am just waiting for the right instrument or amp to put it on.

Per Berner · Post by **Per Berner** » 17 Dec 2010 4:00 am

The main reasons why people wish to replace the logo decals on their steels are a) putting a plastic decal logo on a 3-5000 dollar instrument is tasteless beyond belief (as are some screen printed fretboards - and remember the nasty decal "bindings" on MSA's back in the eighties), and b) steel guitar manufacturers have, with a few exceptions, hideous logotypes!

They even see the need to include the words "Steel Guitars" on the front... If the builder takes pride in his work, would it hurt to add a metal or inlaid logo, designed by a competent pro? I'd gladly pay 10 or 20 bucks extra for that. Or more, if needed.

The good logotype exceptions (among the bigger brands being manufactured today) are, in my not even remotely humble opinion: Emmons, Excel, Zumsteel, full stop. Then there are a few half-decent ones, but the majority do nothing to enhance the look and value of the instruments they are displayed on.

So no big wonder they are being removed and replaced!

Adair Torres · Post by **Adair Torres** » 17 Dec 2010 7:15 am

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Adair Torres · Post by **Adair Torres** » 17 Dec 2010 7:24 am

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Ward Skinner · Post by **Ward Skinner** » 17 Dec 2010 8:21 am

This?

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 17 Dec 2010 8:32 am

Luthiers who build acoustic instruments NEVER put a logo on the outside of a guitar. It's sufficient to put a tactful sticker on the inside. The only permissable deviation from that is when builders of acoustic steel-strung guitars often put a name on the headstock. When I build steel guitars I put a maker's label on the underneath. When I build acoustic instruments I put a maker's label inside. Discretion is a mark of artistry.

Adair Torres · Post by **Adair Torres** » 17 Dec 2010 8:45 am

[quote="Ward Skinner"]This?

Yes Ward.....
I like Derby without the Big "D" 'cause I prefer the Big "E".

Ward Skinner · Post by **Ward Skinner** » 17 Dec 2010 8:53 am

Earlier I posted a pic of a friend's Excel and got some positive feedback, and for a few hours even I thought I was cool. But I'm not. I have a Derby and Carter and the logos are there. I've seen the comments that Carter logos are ugly or look like they belong on a water heater, that's funny. And the Derby logo comes up now and again. But really I could care less.

One of the guys I play with has a young grandson named Carter, so they love the name, that's the only comment I've ever gotten on Carter. A northern steeler last year looked at my Derby and told me he had never heard of that brand. Hey, at least he could see the 'Big D'.

This is my Carter with automotive finish, what would you call this color?

Dickie Whitley · Post by **Dickie Whitley** » 17 Dec 2010 9:37 am

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