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Ken Huber
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Posted 23 Nov 2010 3:42 pm |
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I have a 1973 MSA classic SD-10 E-9 emmons set-up(C6 removed). All three pedals are way to soft (no resistance) to applied foot pressure.
Do the 10 changer springs loose tension over the 37 years? Also what is the best fix? new springs? and where do ya get them. Or snip a little
OFF of the old springs to make them shorter and stronger? Someone has had this problem besides me, HELP and THANKS
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Dave O'Brien
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Posted 23 Nov 2010 3:52 pm soft
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Those look like adjustable springs to me. If they are have you tried turning the adjustment screw in? Also are the helper springs still there and good (up where the pedal rods hook in?) Jim Palenscar probably has new springs in stock. Good luck, Dave
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Ken Huber
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Nebraska, USA
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Posted 23 Nov 2010 4:02 pm Msa
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Thanks for the reply Dave (my bad the photo is of my Rains changer) The MSA
springs are non adjustable a screw holds them to the case. I dont see any
helper springs where you hook on the rods, maybe that's what is missing
I dont have any refrence photos of a 1973 msa where the helper springs should be. Maybe some one can show me a photo as to where they go and who has them
Thanks alot Dave |
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Larry Bell
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Englewood, Florida
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Posted 23 Nov 2010 4:45 pm
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Hold on a minute
Are the return springs doing their job? (returning a lowered note to the original pitch)
If so, it is clearly something else.
The helper springs Dave mentions are located where the pedal rod attaches to the guitar. There should be one for each pedal to help the cross shaft and pedal return to the original position. About an inch or so long. Most guitars work fine without them.
Are you sure that the strings are actually being raised or lowered when you push a pedal? That's what provides most of the resistance on pedals and levers.
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Dave O'Brien
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Florida and New Jersey
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Posted 23 Nov 2010 5:12 pm MSA problem
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Ken - I've never encountered bad springs on an MSA and I've owned lots of them since 1975. I am currently restoring one with about 500,000 miles on it and the springs are still good! Maybe Larry's question is on target here.
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Ken Huber
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Nebraska, USA
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Posted 23 Nov 2010 6:12 pm Msa
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Thanks guys, I looked at an MSA undercarriage you had for sale Dave, I see that
the helper springs near the rod hook-ups are missing, that must be why the pedals
are so touchy, you cant even rest your shoe on them. Larry, yes every string raises
and lowers properly and works fine, plays great, I would just like a little more
pedal resistance, and not be so touchy. Dave can you give me some info on the
gent that has replacement helper springs? I sure will thank you. KEN |
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Dave O'Brien
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Florida and New Jersey
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Posted 23 Nov 2010 7:10 pm MSa
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Try Jim at Steel Guitar of North County. b0b has a list of steel guitar vendors in the Links. 
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