Sho Bud Baldwin Crossover or Pro 1?

[Erich Haws]

Hi this guitar was advertised as a ShoBud pro 2 but it looks like a pro 1 but it has the Dist. by Baldwin logo?? Any idea what this guitar is? I know some of you guys are Sho Bud lovers and would probably know the answer. Thanks

[Ryan Barwin]

I can't see from the photo...is it an S-10 or SD-10? A photo of the top and undercarriage would help.
It sure looks like a converted crossover, if it's an SD-10. Never saw any Pro I's with a changer like that (with a wraparound wood neck), and the finish looks like a crossover.

[Erich Haws]

I am trying to move this question out of the Sale and into the convesation/question. I did not realize I was in the Steel for Sale page when I posted. It was my first time starting a thread. How do I move them? Thanks

[Erich Haws]

Where should I move this thread to so that I am not cluttering up the Sale section...thanks

[Jay Yuskaitis]

A BEAUTY. Jay Y.

[Robert Parent]

My guess is that it's a Baldwin era single neck built around the same time as the crossover models. I don't believe the Pro series arrived until later in time.

Robert

[Neil Lang]

Robert,
I think you are right. This is the first "crossover" era single neck I have seen, they must be a bit rare? w/(Baldwin Logo) It sure is a great looking little bud. It appears to be in EXCELLENT condition.
Neil

[Joey Ace]

Where should I move this thread

I'll move it to Pedal Steel.

[John Billings]

Baldwin era. As early as 1967. Could be as late as 1969, I believe. I'm not eggs ackley sure when the aluminum changers started, but I think in late '68 or early '69. Do you have a pic of the underside? That would help. Mine is a '67, and has a very crude rack and barrel system with cast aluminum brackets each holding three racks. That's the earliest design. Wish my guitar was as pretty as this one!
In front, my '67.

The first type of rack and barrels undercarriage;

[Neil Lang]

I must have been sleeping yet when I posted this morning. I had one just like it in blonde finish but 6 pedals on the floor. I think the neat color also threw me off??? I sold it to Coop, hard to tell where its at now and what it has on the underside. That was 3-4 years ago.
Neil

[John Billings]

Neil,
The one in my pics is a six and two.

[Fred Layman]

The usual dating is that the first models were dated '66 - '67 with a wood neck that wrapped around the pickup housing. The '68 -'69 models had a metal enclosure around the pickup. The story was that the sound of the earlier models was not satisfactory to some of the pro players, so the wood enclosurers were replaced with the cast aluminum enclosures. Somewhere in the past the various Sho-Buds were dated on this Forum.

I have a D-10 Crossover that I'm in the process of restoring. Where I am in a quandry? = I have never seen a single-neck version of this model. Was the metal frame altered from a double neck to a single neck frame by cutting away part of each end and rewelding the ends back together, i.e., are there
rewelds visible on the end plates????

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[Erich Haws]

Does this help any?

[John Coop]

My guess is early 69...aluminum fingers with full radius tops...non cast aluminum pedal bar...Coop

[John Coop]

Neil...I still have that guitar...I kept the barrel tuners and throwed the rest of the undercarriage parts in the trash...it will be for sale in the near future with 3&5 all new undercarriage and a tripple raise/double lower changer, and new finish...Coop

[Neil Lang]

Hey Coop,
Glad to hear you are still "at it"! If anyone can make a great guitar out of a "so-so" one, that would be you!!
As you know I got rid of all my rack & barrel Buds, I think they all went to you.
I still have 6 Buds, my old fingertip, and 6 newer type Buds. 3 Super Pros, 1 Pro II and a LDG.
And Coop.....be careful making parts & working on theses guitars.
Neil

[Mark MacKenzie]

Reminds me of my guitar, COOP.