ZB Pedal Steel Guitars - Please help!

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Joe A. Camacho
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ZB in San Diego

Post by Joe A. Camacho »

Spoke to this guy last week. I'm not ready for another ZB just yet.

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/msg/2050467834.html
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Greg Lasser
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Post by Greg Lasser »

Now I could be (and probably am) wrong about this as I am no steel guitar historian but it seems to me that nobody was making single necks on a double neck body (SNDNB) as early as the late 60's. As I recall, it wasn't until Lloyd Green had a custom Sho-Bud made for him somewhere in the 70's that the idea of a SNDNB with a pad on the bottom neck area became popular. Before that, single necks were on a single neck frame.

I have certainly never seen or heard of a SNDNB with the older ZB logo on it.
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Post by Kevin Hatton »

Greg, someone took the C neck off and put a pad on it. That was originally a D-10.
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Post by Duncan Hodge »

Hey Joe...funny, the last phrase I just typed sounds familiar, but for some strange reason, that ZB in your pictures looks just like Dave Van Allen's ZB (look at his website). Last I heard he was living in Doylestown, PA, not San Diego, but I may be wrong.
In any event, Joe, you are right, you don't need anothther ZB, you just need the right one. You have the second best sounding ZB on the planet (even if it does weigh about a million pounds), but if you ever wanted to sell it, I may finally have a reason to sell my Fulawka.
Have a beautiful California evening.
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Hi

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I know of a ZB SD 10 blonde in the UK for sale if anyone is interested, I will find out more info and price for you.

Contact me at mr.davidhartley@btinternet.com
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Greg Lasser
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Post by Greg Lasser »

Kevin Hatton wrote:Greg, someone took the C neck off and put a pad on it. That was originally a D-10.
I thought that might be the case (no pun). But looking at the one photo that shows the right end of the guitar I can't see any holes drilled in the endplate that would indicate the pre-existence of a bottom neck.

Now that you mention it, I do see a bit of a blurry patch there but that's about all I can make out on this monitor.

(OK - that WAS a pun)
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Post by B. Greg Jones »

Joe, Duncan is right, those pictures are Dave Van Allen's D-10. The pics clearly show 8 floors and 5 knees, but the add says 9 floors and 4 knees. He may very well have a ZB for sale but its not the guitar he posted the pics of.

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Post by C.D. Richards »

Larry, I just recently purchased a D10 ZB with 8 floors and 3 knees. The story from the seller was that the guitar was built by Zane in Oct. 1966 and his dad purchased it from Zane in very early 1967. The serial # is 1076. It came in the orginal case which is sturdy but needs recovered. The guitar is orginal with the 3 tap coil pickups and the tone and volume pots on the changer end plate, with a a bypass switch between the necks.
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Post by B. Greg Jones »

Thats a great looking ZB. Bet it sounds wonderful. Definetly a Zane built, Scranton Arkansas model. The serial number listing that I have for #1076 was invoiced on June 20th, 1967 to McClain Music Center. That guitar is a keeper for sure!!!!

Greg
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Post by C.D. Richards »

Thanks Greg for the info. There was a McClain Music in the Tulsa area back then so that is probably where the man bought the guitar. He told me that he also has a Zane Beck amplifier.You are correct about the tone. To my ear the guitar sounds great and I love the tone. Clovis Richards
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Post by Joe A. Camacho »

B. Greg Jones wrote:Joe, Duncan is right, those pictures are Dave Van Allen's D-10. The pics clearly show 8 floors and 5 knees, but the add says 9 floors and 4 knees. He may very well have a ZB for sale but its not the guitar he posted the pics of.

Greg
Thanks Greg,
I never checked it out. He got me on the phone once and I couldn't get him to shut up, so I didn't bother calling back.

Joe
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Post by Chuck McGill »

Great guitar C.D. I have 1057 and it's so sweet. Joe
could I see a pic of Duncan's old Blue D10? I have
an idea for a recent project.
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Post by Joe A. Camacho »

Chuck McGill wrote:Great guitar C.D. I have 1057 and it's so sweet. Joe
could I see a pic of Duncan's old Blue D10? I have
an idea for a recent project.
Certainly, I'll email one or two to you.

Joe
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Post by Paul Frank Bloomfield »

Hey Joe,Chuck, is this a wind-up to get Duncan
ranting about his blue ZB ?
And him being quiet of late as well !
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Paul Frank Bloomfield wrote:Hey Joe,Chuck, is this a wind-up to get Duncan
ranting about his blue ZB ?
And him being quiet of late as well !
All the best
Frank. Corfu
Frank, I think you mean MY blue ZB! I think that I've now owned it longer than Duncan ever did. I love that guitar!
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Post by Paul Frank Bloomfield »

My apologies Joe ! I meant yours ,Duncan, I think
would really like another D-10, looking at the
thread it looks like they becoming quite scarce
now, I dread to see what my old blue D-10 will
look like when Bob Adams has refubished it as it
was not in the best of health, I'll
probably get suicidal !!
Oh well, off to work, keep safe
All the best
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steinar
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3 ZB`s from 3 eras.

Post by steinar »

I meant to post under this ZB thread, but apparently I didn`t.
So, please look at my post with the aforementioned title for pictures of 3 great ZB`s restored by Greg Jones and Billy Knowles.
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Post by Harry James »

I recently bought a ZB Custom D10 Serial number is 0232. Can anyone tell me what year it was built? Any help will be much appreciated

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Harry`s ZB.

Post by steinar »

Hi Harry.

Congrats.!
My 0219 is from 1969/1970, so my guess would be around 1970/1971.
But Greg Jones would be the expert in this field. He knows more about ZB history than I will ever forget!
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Post by Harry James »

For Greg Jones

Hi Greg Perhaps you can tell me the year my ZB Custom D-10 was built. The S/N is 0232 It is a truly beautiful guitar with birdseye maple body. Overall is is in very near mint condition. Thanks for any info you can give me on it

Harry
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Post by B. Greg Jones »

I dont have an actual invoice list for anything after Dec. 1968 but....#0232 should fall in the 70/71 range. You can check the volume and tone pot codes if they havent been changed for a date. This will get your really close. The pot codes on Steinar's D-11 date it to 1970.

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Post by Paul Sutherland »

Someone in San Diego area has a D10 ZB listed on Craig's list. The price was $1500, but was reduced recently to $1250. I know nothing more than what's in the ad. Not my guitar and don't know the seller. Just thought you might want to know.
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I have a blue S-11 3+4 for sale in the instruments section.
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Russ Tkac
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1969 ZB Custom 8+5

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Big Red.

I have a nice ZB.

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I had a nice ZB.

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Post by Duncan Hodge »

Yes you do/did. Stay warm, my friend.
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