Barry Hyman wrote:Yeah, Pete, I'm a guitar player who is used to tuning straight up in 30 seconds and calling it "in tune." That's right. And then I tune my pedal steel straight up in 30 seconds and call it "in tune."
Do you have a problem with that? I'm a professional musician. I get paid to play, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year. I make a living playing music. What are you?
I'm SO sick of all this BS about tuning. Let me guess: You just can't stand to listen to guitars or bass players or banjos or mandolins or pianos or synthesizers or organs or accordions or dulcimers, not to mention horns or strings or vocalists who play with any of those instruments, because they all sound out of tune to you? Can't stand to listen to the radio or to CDs because they tune ET? Get real, man.
I think there's been a misunderstaning...
I don't care how anyone tunes.
We all agree it's gotta sound in tune.
"The FeedBack loop between the eyes, ears, and hands, is what allows folks who tune differently to all sound in tune."
That's the applicable wisdom I intended to communicate.
My recently posted YouTube of Georgy Girl was tuned 100% straight up 440. (actually when I checked it afterwards my P7 had drifted sharp).
My 6th tuning is basically Straight Up.
I was straight up on the other 6th tune also.
When I do that Travis pickin' thing, I can tune pretty close to Straight Up... very few multi-note chords.
I said guitar players tune straight up and it takes about 30 seconds. I gigged on guitar last night and that was the case for me. I didn't tweak it.
As steel players we have to play in tune with guitar players, etc.
For classic pedal-mashin' E9th the needle might not line up with A440 across the map for some players.
This has been my expierience... It's hard for me to tune every note straight up on E9th and hear it as "in tune". Yet I still need to tune up and play with fixed keys and guitars tuned straight up, no tweaks.
Because I have a few steels here, I test fire tuning straight up, and a ton of other ideas I read about here on the forum.
I don't jump into these threads without first hand knowledge (uhh... most of the time!:))
Now that I'm into the video thing, I will try to post video clips to help complete the thought.
Here's my YouTube channel if you want to see what I'm into, Barry (fwiw, I listen to tons of the stuff you guessed I might not like).
I'm sure you and I would get along just fine in real life.
http://www.youtube.com/my_videos?feature=mhum