Msa Pedal Steel
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Msa Pedal Steel
Anyone played a new MSA PEDAL STEEL , IF SO WHAT DO YOU THINK OF IT . I'M LOOKING TO BUY A NEW PSG AND WOULD LIKE SOME INFORMATION.
- Darvin Willhoite
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Yep, I've played one, I have a Millennium, a Legend, a Studio Pro, and a Superslide, plus some older one's, and they are all great guitars. Reece says I own the MSA Museum LOL. I have a few other brands too and they are all good guitars, but the MSA goes just a little farther. They have several features not available on other guitars, and the people at MSA are great to deal with. I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have.
Darvin Willhoite
MSA Millennium, Legend, and Studio Pro, Reese's restored Universal Direction guitar, as well as some older MSAs, several amps, new and old, and a Kemper Powerhead that I am really liking. Recently added a Zum D10, a Mullen RP, and a restored blue Rose, named the "Blue Bird" to the herd. Also, I have acquired and restored the plexiglass D10 MSA Classic again that was built as a demo in the early '70s. I also added a '74 lacquer P/P, with wood necks.
MSA Millennium, Legend, and Studio Pro, Reese's restored Universal Direction guitar, as well as some older MSAs, several amps, new and old, and a Kemper Powerhead that I am really liking. Recently added a Zum D10, a Mullen RP, and a restored blue Rose, named the "Blue Bird" to the herd. Also, I have acquired and restored the plexiglass D10 MSA Classic again that was built as a demo in the early '70s. I also added a '74 lacquer P/P, with wood necks.
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- Greg Cutshaw
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Bobby, lot's of really nice guitars out there including the Mullen G2, Zum, Excel... look over as many as you can.
Here's a link to my MSA page which has tons of pictures and lists of many of the unique features of this guitar. At the top left of the page, there are more links to more info. Additionally, all of my 500+ tabs and songs are recorded on the MSA with various amps.
http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Msa/msa.html
Greg
Here's a link to my MSA page which has tons of pictures and lists of many of the unique features of this guitar. At the top left of the page, there are more links to more info. Additionally, all of my 500+ tabs and songs are recorded on the MSA with various amps.
http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Msa/msa.html
Greg
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- Mike Perlowin
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I have 2 Millennium 3 U-12s. Amazingly, I found one of them on E-Bay.
They are great guitars. And as Darvin says, they have some features not found on other guitars. The most notable is the modular pickup system that lets you try out a variety of different pickups and see which one you prefer, or have several for different sounds.
They also feature a 4 raise 3 lower changer and tunable splits on every string.
Another great feature is the easily adjustable height of the pedals and angles of the knee levers. The day my first one arrived, it took me less than 5 minutes to set up it up the way I like it.
And they are LIGHT. The carbon fiber weighs less than wood. They are the lightest guitars on the market. My back thanks me every time I pick one up.
They are great guitars. And as Darvin says, they have some features not found on other guitars. The most notable is the modular pickup system that lets you try out a variety of different pickups and see which one you prefer, or have several for different sounds.
They also feature a 4 raise 3 lower changer and tunable splits on every string.
Another great feature is the easily adjustable height of the pedals and angles of the knee levers. The day my first one arrived, it took me less than 5 minutes to set up it up the way I like it.
And they are LIGHT. The carbon fiber weighs less than wood. They are the lightest guitars on the market. My back thanks me every time I pick one up.
Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin
- Rick Winfield
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73 Msa
I had a 73 D12 MSA, that I found to be better than most "other brands" new ones.
sorry I had to let it go..
Rick
sorry I had to let it go..
Rick
Mike P
Your wrist lever looks pleased to see you!
Lovely looking guitar by the way.
Your wrist lever looks pleased to see you!
Lovely looking guitar by the way.
Show Pro D10 - amber (8+6), MSA D10 Legend XL Signature - redburst (9+6), Infinity SD10 (4+5) Sho-Bud Pro 111 Custom (8+6), Emmons black Push-Pull D10 (8+5), Zum D10 (8x8), Hudson pedal resonator. Telonics TCA-500, Webb 614-E,
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- J D Sauser
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I don't own a MSA pedal steel. But I was given the opportunity to "kick the tires" on Maurice's 3 years ago, and it sounded marvelous and plaid like butter (Millennium). Excellent engineering!
I owned a S12 SuperSlide, and as some may know, I owned may non-pedal steels of all vintages and brands, but the MSA was by far the highest quality build and best engineered non-pedal steel I have ever held in my hands. An all around professionally made instrument.
I doubt there would be more complete and better quality built PSG around currently.
... J-D.
... J-D.
I owned a S12 SuperSlide, and as some may know, I owned may non-pedal steels of all vintages and brands, but the MSA was by far the highest quality build and best engineered non-pedal steel I have ever held in my hands. An all around professionally made instrument.
I doubt there would be more complete and better quality built PSG around currently.
... J-D.
... J-D.
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A Little Mental Health Warning:
Tablature KILLS SKILLS.
The uses of Tablature is addictive and has been linked to reduced musical fertility.
Those who produce Tablature did never use it.
I say it humorously, but I mean it.
A Little Mental Health Warning:
Tablature KILLS SKILLS.
The uses of Tablature is addictive and has been linked to reduced musical fertility.
Those who produce Tablature did never use it.
I say it humorously, but I mean it.
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- Mike Perlowin
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I have 2 comments
1: Reece and Kyle deserve much praise and credit for bringing the company back to life and designing and building such great guitars. But the unsung hero, person who actually puts them all together is Johnny Cox. Reece and Kyle are run the company, but Johnny is the man who puts all the TLC into each guitar and makes sure it's absolutely perfect before it leaves the factory. So, forgive me for "shouting," but THANK YOU JOHNNY COX!!!. Everybody who plays a new MSA should be grateful to you.
2: The older MSA are also great guitars. I still have the green one shown in my avatar. But they are completely different from the new ones. The old Classic series (like my green one) have a double raise double lower changer. The Vintage XL and "The Universal" had a triple raise triple lower changer, but neither have tunable splits. They don't have the adjustable pedals and knee levers, or the modular pickups, or the #-D fretboard.
I really like the 3-D fretboard. There's something very satisfying about it. It's a subtle thing you don't notice, till you go back to a 2-D fretboard see the difference.
The undercarriage is completely different. BTW for those who don't know, the old MSAs were all built by Bud Carter, who worked for MSA (and later for MCI) before he started his own company.
Here's a picture of the one I found on E-bay. This is the picture that was on E-bay. After I got it I had my setup (including the wrist lever) installed. and put a decal on it to decorate it because I thought it looked too plain.
2: The older MSA are also great guitars. I still have the green one shown in my avatar. But they are completely different from the new ones. The old Classic series (like my green one) have a double raise double lower changer. The Vintage XL and "The Universal" had a triple raise triple lower changer, but neither have tunable splits. They don't have the adjustable pedals and knee levers, or the modular pickups, or the #-D fretboard.
I really like the 3-D fretboard. There's something very satisfying about it. It's a subtle thing you don't notice, till you go back to a 2-D fretboard see the difference.
The undercarriage is completely different. BTW for those who don't know, the old MSAs were all built by Bud Carter, who worked for MSA (and later for MCI) before he started his own company.
Here's a picture of the one I found on E-bay. This is the picture that was on E-bay. After I got it I had my setup (including the wrist lever) installed. and put a decal on it to decorate it because I thought it looked too plain.
Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin
- Brendan Mitchell
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It's a pity MSA don't make the Millenium available as an S10 on a single frame . I can't understand the concept of an S10 on a double frame .I can see from the makers side that he only needs one set of endplates but from the owners veiw do you really think an S10 sounds better on a double frame than it does on a single frame ?
- Rich Peterson
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- Mike Perlowin
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They do.Brendan Mitchell wrote:It's a pity MSA don't make the Millenium available as an S10 on a single frame.
http://www.msapedalsteels.com/html/s10.html
Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin
- Johnny Cox
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Mike is correct, you can have an S-10 Millennium or Legend. If you want a Millennium you best order now. There are only a couple bodiies left and there will be no more.
Mike, thanks for all you kind words of praise but MSA is a team effort that consist of about 10 people all experts in their jobs. I'm just the guy that puts all the parts together.
Mike, thanks for all you kind words of praise but MSA is a team effort that consist of about 10 people all experts in their jobs. I'm just the guy that puts all the parts together.
Johnny "Dumplin" Cox
"YANKIN' STRINGS & STOMPIN' PEDALS" since 1967.
"YANKIN' STRINGS & STOMPIN' PEDALS" since 1967.
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- Mike Perlowin
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Tim, it drops my 5th string from B to Bb. Most guys have this on a knee lever. I'd prefer it there, but I already have 6, and ran out of them.Tim Heidner wrote:What does the wrist lever do?
Also, this change us useful on both the E9 and B6 sides of the tuning. By putting it on the wrist, I can access it no matter what my feet are doing.
I was skeptical about this, till I tried one, and liked it. I showed it to Blackie Taylor, who was also skeptical, till he tried mine, and then he got one for himself.
It takes some getting used to, and you can't chime while your using it, but basically it's pretty cool.
Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin
- Mike Perlowin
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OH??????????Johnny Cox wrote: If you want a Millennium you best order now. There are only a couple bodies left and there will be no more.
Will you still be making legends and Studio Pros? Will there be anything new to replace the Millys?
Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin
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OK, that seems pretty neat, what do you have your vertical knee lever set up to do, Mike?Mike Perlowin wrote:Tim, it drops my 5th string from B to Bb. Most guys have this on a knee lever. I'd prefer it there, but I already have 6, and ran out of them.Tim Heidner wrote:What does the wrist lever do?
If that is the case - watch the price of second hand Millies go up.Johnny Cox wrote:If you want a Millennium you best order now. There are only a couple bodiies left and there will be no more.
Show Pro D10 - amber (8+6), MSA D10 Legend XL Signature - redburst (9+6), Infinity SD10 (4+5) Sho-Bud Pro 111 Custom (8+6), Emmons black Push-Pull D10 (8+5), Zum D10 (8x8), Hudson pedal resonator. Telonics TCA-500, Webb 614-E,
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