Apprised Of The Road To Stardom

Rick Abbott · Post by **Rick Abbott** » 10 Jul 2010 12:53 pm

Jerry Reed? DYK

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 10 Jul 2010 12:58 pm

Charles,

I may be able to guess who you are referring to. He played a lot of instrumentals that Chet Atkins recorded. His initials are L.P. if I'm correct. Just this morning I watched on you tube, his rendition of "Caravan". If I'm not wrong, your clue provided who the individual could possibly be. "How High The Moon" was a huge hit for him and his wife in the 50's. Shifting to steel guitar players will be very necessary from this point on. Losing sight of the intent of the forum rules, should be avoided to the best of my ability.

Storm Rosson · Post by **Storm Rosson** » 10 Jul 2010 1:03 pm

WE LOVE YOU CHET ATKINS!!!....ok Charlie it's fixed DYK...You Betcha

Jimmie Misenheimer · Post by **Jimmie Misenheimer** » 10 Jul 2010 4:39 pm

Stu - I thought that I was the ONLY person that saw "The Gong Show" that day... Jimmie

Bo Legg · Post by **Bo Legg** » 10 Jul 2010 6:35 pm

Charles Davidson · Post by **Charles Davidson** » 10 Jul 2010 6:57 pm

Hank Garland

YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 11 Jul 2010 3:11 am

Charlie,

Walter Louis Garland, b. 11-11-30, retired early ater he lost his wife in a fatal automobile accident in 1963. He was severly injured in another auto accident on 9-8-61. He mingled on the same turf with "Arthur Boogie Smith", Zeke Turner, and Maybelle Carter. Cowpen, S. Carolina was his birthplace. He was the among the very best studio musicians known and possessed an enviable reputation until the crashes forced him into retirement in South Carolina. He had worked up "Sugar Foot Rag" as a finger exercise. Truly, one of the best in the business. He was fond of playing jazz around Nashville, Tn. (Researching his involvement with steel guitarists will be interesting).

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 11 Jul 2010 5:09 am

Bo Legg,

Thanks for the interesting accounts that you forwarded for the benefit of the readership. Too bad you were never able to recover the Atkins collection. I have several of his early albums put away. The beauty of having albums such as his, benefits a steel guitarist who may wish to dress up a country song by taking ideas from those recordings, and transforming them into multiplicities of various artful arrangements. I remember trying to imitate steel "licks" on the lead guitar. Today I'm spending time chasing guitar "licks" on my steel.

Storm Rosson · Post by **Storm Rosson** » 11 Jul 2010 5:54 am

Yep, same here Bill, life is an amazing paradox at times

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 12 Jul 2010 3:24 am

Edited - B.H.

Storm Rosson · Post by **Storm Rosson** » 12 Jul 2010 12:30 pm

$:\$ Alas, sad but true. Yer spot on that one Bill

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 13 Jul 2010 2:48 am

Seeking sincere pledges to share experiences that may further the interests of others to remain enthused, and they in turn may choose to offer important and emphatic data aimed at creating amiable allegiances to a good cause. The S.G.F. has covered all bases, with the exception of aiming at outreach threads involved in promoting camaraderies among steel guitarists. Getting to the heart of pertinent data, may be worth considering.

Allan Munro · Post by **Allan Munro** » 13 Jul 2010 6:24 am

Bill Hankey wrote:...The S.G.F. has covered all bases, with the exception of aiming at outreach threads involved in promoting camaraderies among steel guitarists...

What am I missing here Bill? I thought that was the very core concept of the SGF. Are you saying then that it has failed in that? Note that there is no aggression implied or intended in this post.

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 13 Jul 2010 7:43 am

Allan,

A quick reply would suffice to bring you closer to the meaning of my concerns to stare into factual data that would only become available, if someone inspired the "greats" of steel guitars to crash the floodgates, and allow lesser pickers to enjoy the input by known experts who indulge in all that matters most. We've heard from a small percentage of the leaders. Where are the remaining experts?

Allan Munro · Post by **Allan Munro** » 13 Jul 2010 9:52 am

Bill Hankey wrote:Allan,

A quick reply would suffice to bring you closer to the meaning of my conquest to stare into factual data that would only become available, if someone inspired the "greats" of steel guitars to crash the floodgates, and allow lesser pickers to enjoy the input by known experts who indulge in all that matters most. We've heard from a small percentage of the leaders. Where are the remaining experts?

Well Mr B, as usual you have more than slightly muddied the waters of my understanding with your flowery prose and convoluted grammar. However, that aside, I think you are bemoaning the fact that a greater number of qualified people are not coming here to give freely of the knowledge and expertise that they have gained over the years. OK, yeah, that would be nice. BUT! and it's a big BUT! Can you imagine the scenario if you were to call the local plumber and ask him how to change a tap washer as opposed to asking him to come around and do it for his usual fee?
Bill, please note that this is by way of an illustration/simile, thus it is not a perfect parallel situation, so, no hair splitting please.

And, did you mean 'concept' where you said 'conquest'?

Marc Mercer · Post by **Marc Mercer** » 13 Jul 2010 12:21 pm

"For many years, most of the world's steel guitarists were isolated from each other. Information about the instrument was hard to find. The Internet has changed all that. Today non-pedal and pedal steel guitarists of all skill levels share their knowledge with many other players every day."

I read that somewhere.

Just sayin', s'all.

Brian Henry · Post by **Brian Henry** » 13 Jul 2010 12:41 pm

Bill, The demise of the songwriter is a matter of grave concern. Internet piracy of music has almost completely destroyed the profession of songwriting, and is slowly destroying the music industry. For example,
According to the International Federation of Phonographic Industries (IFPI), in 2000, global recorded music sales were $30 billion. By 2008, these same global sales had fallen to $18.4 billion. This eight-year period coincides with the rapid expansion of unlawful file sharing.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, songwriter income dropped 32% between 2003 and 2006 alone.

Warning of potential devastation to music creators, the Songwriters Guild of America (SGA) Thursday filed comments with the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) expressing its grave concern about a new proposed rule that could result in continued widespread music piracy and further loss of income to songwriters.

The FCC’s rulemaking proceeding deals with the controversial issue of ‘Net Neutrality’ and the Commission’s proposed rule would codify six principles in an attempt to, “preserve the free and open Internet.” In its comments, the SGA stated that while it shares the Commission’s overall goal, it strongly objects to the proposed fifth, ‘nondiscrimination’ principle. That proposal states that, subject to reasonable network management, a provider of broadband Internet access service would be required to treat lawful content applications and services in a nondiscriminatory manner.

“While the nondiscrimination principle seems harmless on its surface, we believe it will seriously impact songwriters and copyright owners, and we’re asking the FCC to revise or delete it,” said Rick Carnes, president of the SGA.

The SGA argued that the nondiscrimination principle addresses problems that are largely hypothetical and would enshrine actual practices that have led to the decimation of the music industry and the impending demise of the profession of American songwriting. The SGA urged the FCC to focus instead on the real issues—copyright piracy and bandwidth congestion.

The principal concerns of SGA are that the proposed nondiscrimination rule would lock the Internet into its current form – where continuous access to stolen works is the norm – ant that it would prevent Internet service providers (ISPs) from developing technology to effectively combat piracy.

Technology that could discern lawful from unlawful content (including electronic fingerprinting and watermarking applications, central registry databases and commercial technologies such as Audible Magic and SNOCAP) is essential for a robust and safe Internet marketplace, but needs further refinement to ensure that it is reliable and does not frustrate the large number of Internet users who do not engage in digital piracy, the SGA noted. Adoption of the proposed nondiscrimination rule, however, would discourage further private investment in these technologies, stopping anti-piracy progress in its tracks.

SGA argued that it is unreasonable to ask ISPs or other private parties to innovate in an environment of legal ambiguity, not to mention one that may actually result in legal liability.

“Who would be willing to invest in a technology that seems to constitute, “reasonable network management,” when the FCC or a federal court could decides it doesn't’t? The answer is, no one. So, creators will continue to lose their livelihood to piracy -- and the songwriting profession in this country will continue its downward spiral,” said Carnes..

Further, according to the SGA, the vague language of the rule would allow pirating of content to continue unabated. Under the proposed rule, copyright pirates could transmit small amounts of legal works in the public domain alongside massive amounts of illegal, infringed works, and an ISP network operator would be prevented from ‘discriminating’ against this lawbreaker.

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 13 Jul 2010 4:30 pm

Allen,

I consider you a great sport, and I trust you wouldn't mind, should my question be directed to a very small matter, for the benefit of gained knowledge. Are you a guitarist firstly, and a steel player secondly? Thanks for your input.

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 13 Jul 2010 4:45 pm

Marc,

There is one relevant issue that you sort of passed over. I could sit and watch Buddy E., Paul F, and D. Jernigan for hours on you tube. All the moves are in clear view. The precision and finesse is NOT visible to the eye. Their level of playing will never appear in written form. It's much too complicated to be written as played.

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 13 Jul 2010 4:59 pm

tbhenry,

I'll try to respond to your concerns about songwriters after some thought. I've read through your message, backing up a few times to reread some strong points. It's difficult to keep up with the changes on the web. Like everything that is musically related, there is always more than what MEETS the eye.

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 14 Jul 2010 6:31 am

The new wave of pickers in circulation today have gone beyond the best performances of the 50's and 60's.

Bill, you're entitled to your own opinion of course, but in this case, I think it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

Gary Lee Gimble · Post by **Gary Lee Gimble** » 14 Jul 2010 9:32 am

thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

too late...

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 14 Jul 2010 10:34 am

Barry and Gary,

You wouldn't believe how many times your comments remind me of situations that I've been in, and how each of you would work your way out of. According to words spoken, it shouts that there were less troubling experiences to deal with in each of your lives. This may, or may not be true, I prefer to draw from the written words; however.

Allan Munro · Post by **Allan Munro** » 14 Jul 2010 12:46 pm

Bill Hankey wrote:Allen,

I consider you a great sport, and I trust you wouldn't mind, should my question be directed to a very small matter, for the benefit of gained knowledge. Are you a guitarist firstly, and a steel player secondly? Thanks for your input.

Mr. B... I will answer your question although you skipped past mine. (POKE!)
I am not, by any stretch of the imagination, a steel player. Just a lover of the sound and the instrument its self. I have spent a lot of my life on stage as a bass player and a guitarist and even (whisper this part) a banjo picker.
I am aware that you didn't mean THIS when you phrased your question - I don't like SPORT in any shape or form. (unless the term includes fishing which I see more as a religion, so a no-no on the forum!)

Stu Schulman · Post by **Stu Schulman** » 14 Jul 2010 1:30 pm

Jimmie,Just you and me!