Yet another scammer? Clue me in.

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 14 Sep 2004 8:07 am

I received this email, reproduced here in its entirety

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>i am mr victor korie and i am intersted in buying your
goods, l'm okay with the price and would like you to
know that payment will be remitted to you by my client
in the usa that is owing me over goods I bought from
him but due to delayment over, coming for the pick up
he had to sell it off to someone else hoping to get me
another before i will come for the pick up but
couldn't, so he will issue you the amount beening a
cancelling order which i placed with him and it will
be remitted to you on a bankers draft or money order.
Also, my shipper will make an arrangement to come for
the pick-up at your location. If this is okay by you,
provide your contact details and phone number on which
payment can be remitted to you immediately.

I wait to read from you soonest.send more details.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sound fishy? I thought so too. So I'm only gonna sell him one guitar. I don't want to really get screwed, right?

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Will Holtz · Post by **Will Holtz** » 14 Sep 2004 8:17 am

There are several scams currently going around that involve money orders. I personally would not take a money order from a non-forum member.

That e-mail looks pretty fishy to me. I'd bet its a scammer.

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 14 Sep 2004 9:21 am

Herb,
As you can tell by his first sentence this is a great man you are dealing with ! In order to be allowed to use a money order to buy a family heirloom pac a seat from me last month it was imperitive that he become a part of my family. So he married my microcephalic sister in a special cerimony and he paid the usual dowery costs (a goat, shovel and a wagon load of water buffalo dung) up front ! The transaction is going well so far. Once my sister bears a healthy albino male child the pac a seat will be transfered to mr victor korie through my agents.

Bob[This message was edited by Bob Hoffnar on 14 September 2004 at 10:24 AM.]

Ray Minich · Post by **Ray Minich** » 14 Sep 2004 9:55 am

Don't get involved, run, run, run away...

The letter is boilerplate Nigerian.[This message was edited by Ray Minich on 14 September 2004 at 10:56 AM.]

Mark Herrick · Post by **Mark Herrick** » 14 Sep 2004 12:59 pm

Sound fishy? I thought so too.

Uh...what was your first clue?

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Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 14 Sep 2004 8:42 pm

In general, I prefer Victor Borge.

Glenn Suchan · Post by **Glenn Suchan** » 15 Sep 2004 4:40 am

Herb,
If you respond with terms and conditions that completely protect your interests, you'lll probably, never hear from him again. That's what I did. Tisk, tisk....

Keep on pickin'!
Glenn

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 15 Sep 2004 4:54 am

Thanks for all the well meaning advice, but I was gonna post this thing in the HUMOR section, dudes.

I mean, you don't actually think I was gonna sell this guy anything, do y'all?

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Herb's Steel Guitar Pages
Texas Steel Guitar Association

Bobby D. Hunter · Post by **Bobby D. Hunter** » 15 Sep 2004 9:54 am

Just in case somebody here doesn't know yet, this is a Nigerian 419 check-kiting scam. It has been discussed on the two main buy and sell forums, and measures are being set in place to block these creeps from accessing the Forum.

My advise is do not reply to these people.
If you already have replied they probably have sent you an offer to buy with an over-amount certified check, and asked you to refund the balance via Western Union, to Lagos, Nigeria. If you do get such an email, mentioning overpayment and refunding, please FORWARD that email to me. My special account in in the email link above this Post.

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Wizardo DeLaSteel
Edwards Push-Push S8 with pod, Morris The-Cat-Can Lapsteel, Acme GoldTone Amp, Foobar effects, Fuzzytone Volume Pedal

Ricky0ne1 · Post by **Ricky0ne1** » 19 Sep 2004 6:22 am

Lookin' like Bobby is usin' that high-follutin' statem o' de art 'quipment.

Dem wizardos can do dat, ya know...

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Rick Summers
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David L. Donald · Post by **David L. Donald** » 19 Sep 2004 8:54 am

Bob Hoffnar you got me ROTFLMAO.

The only way to do this deal is say :

Pick up of material is AFTER my banker has give complete clearance for the check at his end,
and the writers bank ALSO. Nothing less.

Takes about a week or so.
Otherwise your bank can't tell if the doccument is real. And YOU weill get hit for the charge when it is proved false.

( This is what they are counting on. Shipment of merchandise and forwarding of the cash difference before the instrument actually clears. )

If they THEN go for the deal knowing the money order or other financial instrument will go through a FULL and COMPLETE verification and payment procedure, then It is likely a good deal.

If it ain't they will disappear faster than smoke in a nor'easter.

But you go throught the FULL procedure before sending ANTHING out PERIOD!
If it isn't good, you lose nothing,
if it is then your deal is good.

Also these horrible grammatical letters are a big tip off.
[quote]will be remitted to you by my client
in the usa that is owing me over goods I bought from him but due to delayment over[/quote

He managed to copy remited from somewhere.

But the rest is like an 8 year old... who couldn't play a steel if you paid them.

Too much "delayment" in their brains!

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 19 September 2004 at 09:57 AM.]

Frank Parish · Post by **Frank Parish** » 19 Sep 2004 3:53 pm

I think I need a Fuzzytone volume pedal!

ebb · Post by **ebb** » 20 Sep 2004 4:33 pm

you could get quite creative preparing your "goods"

James Quackenbush · Post by **James Quackenbush** » 21 Sep 2004 4:50 am

I think ebb has the right idea....Load up a pedal steel box filled with ???, and seal it all up nice...This guy's eye's should pop out of his head just about the time you find out that your money order or certified bank check is bogus !!... The beauty of it is that he will be paying the shipping !!...
Time to fight these scammers....Jim

Bobby D. Hunter · Post by **Bobby D. Hunter** » 21 Sep 2004 9:56 am

Frank Parish wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
I think I need a Fuzzytone volume pedal!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Frank;
Anybody can modify their existing pot-equipped volume pedal to sound like a classic Fuzzytone volume pedal. The technique involves removing the sealed pot from it's mount and prying open the back cover. Then apply a triple-folded piece of emory cloth to the carbon element, and saw it around in different directions. Next, add a few strands of hair and dust from your computer's mouse rollers, and some human and cat hairs, just for good measure. One last touch is to apply your thumb nail to the surface of the carbon element, then toss in a bit of dirt from the yard. Seal up the back and apply some silicon sealant to keep the new contents from coming out.

I guarantee that you'll now have a uniquely dirty sound that every steel player will envy, and which cannot be easily duplicated by digital means. or fuzz pedals. This could lead to your getting hired in Punk Rock and Alternate Country bands, who would normally avoid clean sounding steel players like the plague!

Just my 2 cents. Good luck with your Fuzzytone volume pedal modifications. Perhaps you could Post your results here, so others can benefit from them.

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Wizardo DeLaSteel
Edwards Push-Push S8 with pod, Morris The-Cat-Can Lapsteel, Acme GoldTone Amp, Foobar effects, Fuzzytone Volume Pedal