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Jeff Ferrasci
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California, USA
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Posted 9 May 2010 9:03 am |
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| Hi Brad: Could not get my PCM 80 to sound right at all with the Rev. Went back to Intellifex but not user friendly. I am considering Lexicon MX-200 not only for the price but because I can split out the back with one input to two outputs. I see guys are having problems with the MPX-1 as far as latency and other issues I don't understand. If worse comes to worse, can I go out the back of Rev with a delay pedal and a reverb pedal? (That is only effects I use.) Or I am going to try MX-200 for 14 days as I can return. I love the Rev and the Furlongs, but I don't want to fight anything anymore on stage. Can you advise? Thanks Jeff.By the way, am seeing guys using m350 T.C. with their Rev Furlong rigs. Apparaently that accident when I was a small child is preventing me from achieving a stereo tone because of the single send of the Rev. Only one that does it for me then splits to stereo is the Intellifex. Please let me know wiring diagram to sends and outputs or for me, inputs and outputs before I take hostages. Thanks Jeff F |
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Dave Grafe
From:
Hudson River Valley NY
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Posted 10 May 2010 8:17 am
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Hi Jeff,
I'm not Brad but I do know that making the move from a PCM80 to a Lexicon MPX ANYTHING or the TC M350 will be taking a huge step backwards. Any issues you are having with the pro unit will also be present with the MI gear with the bonus that you give up all the quality and control options that make the PCM80 a professional unit.
I suggest you try this hookup:
GTR > VP > REV PRE (mono out) > "Y" CORD > (stereo ins) PCM80 (stereo outs) > AMP (stereo) > SPKRS |
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Ron Randall
From:
Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 10 May 2010 1:58 pm
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Echo
The PCM 80 is ProStudio quality. I don't think you will find a better one. It comes from a long line of PCM series. PCM 42, PCM 70, PCM 80, PCM 81. The PCM 81 has been around for more than five or six years.
There are enough factory programs to keep me happy.
IF you are looking for distortion efx, you won't find any. Do that before or after the Lexicon. |
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Brad Sarno
From:
St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 10 May 2010 3:57 pm
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Jeff,
I'd hold off on the MX-200. I messed around with one at the store, and as far as I could tell, that unit will not let you fully operate it as a dual engine (reverb + delay) while also running it in parallel while also running it 100% wet while also being able to change the balance between reverb and delay. It seems that the MX series Lexicons will begin to add back in some dry signal as you alter the balance between the two effects. However, if you want to use the MX200 for just reverb ONLY, then it'll work great in the Rev's loop.
I'm really not sure why you'd have any problems with the PCM80. That's WAY top of the line, and surely should allow you to run it at 100% with ZERO DRY SIGNAL. That's the key with the Rev's parallel loop. Just like using an effects unit with a mixing board. You don't want any dry signal coming back in because the dry signal will just a tad late from the digital conversion and processor buffer. Mixing that late dry signal with the analog dry signal in the preamp will make some nasty artifacts and ruin the sound.
So I wouldn't give up on the PCM just yet. Maybe gimme a call tomorrow and we can make sure you've got the thing set just right. 314-962-7220.
And regarding the single send, just remember that the signal isn't "stereo" until something has been done to the sound to make left different from right. Stereo reverb does this, so the mono-send and stereo-return is perfectly normal for a stereo setup. Most effects units will take the single input signal and split it internally to both sides. The output of the effects unit is "stereo".
The TC M350 is a cheap and very easy to use unit. The sounds are quite good for guitar and for the money. I like the M350 in the Rev's loop, but I don't care for that unit in a series type setup. It's not the best quality signal path for your entire guitar signal, but for just the reverb and delay and ease of use, it's really quite impressive in a parallel type loop.
I think that even the M350 is gonna be a good notch up from the Intellifex when it comes to a natural and realistic reverb algorithm. With the M300 or M350, all you do to make it work with a Rev is push the rear button "IN", and turn the second knob all the way up and leave it there always. The rest is cake.
Brad |
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Jeff Ferrasci
From:
California, USA
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Posted 15 May 2010 7:28 pm m350
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| Brad, It sounded huge at home but I pushed button on front of 350 about digital something and now it sounds crappy again. Can I call again? Jeff |
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Brad Sarno
From:
St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 16 May 2010 10:43 am
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Sure.
Did you try to tell the M350 to use a digital input? You want "analog".
Brad
314-962-7220
bradsarno@earthlink.net |
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Jeff Ferrasci
From:
California, USA
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Posted 18 May 2010 6:52 pm m350
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| Yeah, on the front I pushed the "RED" button and I think it sent it all back to digital. Rehearsal sounded pretty good so I will try not to bother you unless I push something stupid again. Thanks Brad, Jeff P S Downloaded the manual, means nothing except you are on your own on your presets. Very weird. Usually they have like 200 pre and 10 million users. My PCM 80 does and thats why it is e-bay bound! |
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John Lang
From:
Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted 25 May 2010 4:31 pm
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The TC Electronics M350 works very well with the Rev Pre. I just got my rig put together two weeks ago and couldn't be happier.
Just make sure the button on the back of the unit is set to in for the parallel setup, the Rev likes it that way. Leave the buttons on the front alone. Run your Mix at 100% wet, this is key. I haven't messed with doing a lot of presets yet, I just have the system set up next to my steel seat and have been experimenting so far. The variations of tones and effects with this system has amazed me to no end. It's literally endless.
This is by far the best setup I have ever played through, bar none. My band mates were totally floored at the first show I used this on. The CB12 is so powerful you have to make a conscious effort to keep the thing turned down and under control to keep from drowning out the rest of the band.
Brad and TC, once again, my hat is off to you guys.
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Brad Sarno
From:
St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 26 May 2010 7:22 am
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So glad to hear it John!
Enjoy.
Brad |
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