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Topic: old steels and tripleneck pictures. |
Daniel McKee
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Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 20 Apr 2010 4:55 pm |
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| i would like to see pictures of pedal steels made before 1965 that are triple neck.i would also be interested in seeing pictures of some really early steel guitars like the epiphone varichord |
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Bud Harger
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Belton, Texas by way of Baton Rouge, Louisiana
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Posted 21 Apr 2010 5:29 pm Here's one...
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This triple-neck pedal steel was built for me by Harold Romero in New Iberia, Louisiana, in 1955. Harold was a violin builder/luthier and owned a music store in New Iberia. I grew up in Baton Rouge and played this ax in just about every honky-tonk around there during the late 50's.
Birds-eye maple, hand-carved tuning heads, Rickenbacher pickups, crinkled aluminum foil under plexiglas fretboards. It still plays great, sounds great. Heavy, tho'! Tuned: E13; C6; E9 (one lever change to A).
Thanks,
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Ryan Barwin
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 21 Apr 2010 10:51 pm
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Bud, that's a very cool guitar you've got. I'm curious about your E9th setup...I'm guessing it's not tuned B D E F# G# B E G#, because you've got the pulls on the second and third strings (which I'm assuming are B to C# and G# to A). How is it tuned? Do you have the low E? or the E between the D and F#?
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Billy Tonnesen
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R.I.P., Buena Park, California
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Posted 22 Apr 2010 1:05 pm
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I have posted pictures of this triple neck made for me in 1945 by a Mr. Barder in Inglewood, Ca. this was made before Bigsby started making Steel Guitars.
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Bud Harger
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Belton, Texas by way of Baton Rouge, Louisiana
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Posted 22 Apr 2010 2:22 pm My 1955 Romero
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Ryan,
With only the one pedal changer, I changed the tuning around a lot to try to find better ways to use it. It was very limited, but it was the first pedal steel in BR around that time.
I don't recall all of the various tunings, but here is the one we started with. It worked OK. This tuning allowed me to get the "Isaacs" effect...but, I played C6th mostly.
E
B C#
G# A
F#
E
D
A
B
Let me know what you think.
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 22 Apr 2010 4:48 pm
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| those are some nice steels i really like pictures of old steels. |
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Todd Clinesmith
From:
Lone Rock Free State Oregon
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Posted 23 Apr 2010 6:52 am
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Bud and Billy,
Those are two of the coolest looking steels. I have admired them before from other threads. I bet they sound great too.
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2010 7:16 am
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I bought this guitar new in 1954 from Fender.
I sold it when I bought a Sho~Bud but then had the chance to buy it back.
I restored it to its present glory and this is how it looks now:
I bought this triple neck Rickenbacker a few years ago and I'm sure it must have been built prior to 1965:
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Clyde Mattocks
From:
Kinston, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2010 8:34 am
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Somewhere in the world is the first triple neck pedal steel I made, or should say assembled. The body is red birds eye maple made by Leonard Stadler (Marlen). It has Sho Bud fretboards (the flat screened on ones), Sho bud pedals, the wide ones. I wound the pickups with Marvin Hudson's original winder, which I still have. The castings are local and very grainy. The name plate says Blackjack Custom (not the later Blackjack Co.). The fingers are stainless steel with brass shoulder bushings. It is built like Hoover Dam and weighs about as much.
I sold it to a fellow who has long since passed away and I'd just be interested to know what became of it.
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 23 Apr 2010 2:15 pm
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| the fender above is really nice does anyone have a picture of a triple neck shobud. |
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 24 Apr 2010 11:14 am
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| does anyone have a triple neck shobud permanent picture i nwould also be interested in seeing any other tripleneck pictures so far really good pictures. |
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From:
Helsinki, Finland
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Steve Waltz
From:
USA
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Posted 26 Apr 2010 8:28 am
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T-10 9 pedal
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 26 Apr 2010 12:45 pm
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| the t10 with nine pedals is nice what kind is it. |
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Ryan Barwin
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 26 Apr 2010 2:07 pm
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Wow, very cool Steve! What is it? What are the tunings on it?
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Steve Waltz
From:
USA
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Posted 26 Apr 2010 2:21 pm
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It's a Miller Custom. Early 60's. The neck near the player is E9 with three pedals, middle neck is C6th with four pedals and the outside neck will be E13 with two pedals. It's 24 1/2 inch scale. I built the middle pickup as a kind of cross between a bigsby and a Charlie Christian. It's a blade pickup with two big bar magnets wound with #40 wire to about 4.2Kohms. I like it.
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 26 Apr 2010 5:30 pm
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| that is a nice steel how does it sound i dont guess ive ever heard a miller. |
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Rick Abbott
From:
Indiana, USA
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Posted 26 Apr 2010 7:10 pm
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Millers sound great!! However, some had pickups wound into the 30K range...they need fixed. If you put Sho~Bud type pickups in them. they sound very, very nice.
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Remington T-8, Sehy #112
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From:
Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 26 Apr 2010 11:11 pm
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Wright Custom ca. -55:
It was originally a quad with six pedals, identical to Jimmy Day's, then someone hacksawed the inside neck off and painted it red and did all kinds of ugly things to it  It eventually made a nice guitar, I sold it to a forum member some time ago. |
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Steve Waltz
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USA
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Posted 27 Apr 2010 8:55 am
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| Millers sound great!! However, some had pickups wound into the 30K range...they need fixed. If you put Sho~Bud type pickups in them. they sound very, very nice. |
I wanted to point out that Rick said "Sho-bud type" The string spacing and the area where the pickup goes is different than a sho bud, at least in each Miller that I have. So just incase someone thinks you can just pop a sho bud in there.....you most likely will not be able to do that. But someone like Jerry Wallace is able to build a sho bud type to fit.
I need to do a recording with that guitar so I can post how it sounds. This weekend I had a Clinesmith, a Sho bud permanent and a Wright custom and that triple all in that room at the same time. The triple was much more like the Clinesmith and Wright while using my built pickup.
Here is the pickup. Those magnets travel under the changer and then partially under the guitar neck. I didn't have to alter the guitar to do that.
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 27 Apr 2010 1:57 pm
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| i would like to hear the miller if you ever make a recording.Jussi you did really good restoring that wright it sounds like it was in bad condition but it looks good in the picture above. |
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 27 Apr 2010 2:03 pm
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| does anyone know if paul bigsby ever built a tripleneck s10 double eight. Also i would like to see some more wright pictures if anyone has any. |
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 27 Apr 2010 2:34 pm
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| does anyone know if paul bigsby ever built a tripleneck s10 double eight. Also i would like to see some more wright pictures if anyone has any. |
I have one like that.
My Bigsbys are:
8-10-8 from August 1956 original configuration
10-10 from March 1959 -- original D10
8-8-8 from 1955 I think, I will need to look.
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Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 27 Apr 2010 5:54 pm
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| i did not know there was ever a s10 double eight i have always wondered.that d10 is really nice does the s10 d8 have any pedals. |
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 28 Apr 2010 9:29 am
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| i did not know there was ever a s10 double eight i have always wondered.that d10 is really nice does the s10 d8 have any pedals. |
Yes, it has eight pedals. I keep trying to load photos and get "no file selected."
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Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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