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Topic: The tune "Hold It" discography? |
Gary Meyer
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Sacramento, California, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2010 10:02 am |
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It seems this tune has been around for along time. Does anyone know what album (CD)is it on?
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Roger Kelly
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Bristol,Tennessee
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Posted 24 Mar 2010 10:59 am
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Good question.
Last edited by Roger Kelly on 26 Mar 2010 12:38 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Andy Greatrix
From:
Edmonton Alberta
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Posted 24 Mar 2010 11:24 am
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| Was it a Jimmy Smith ( the jazz organist)tune, originally? |
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Jim Smith
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Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2010 11:44 am
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Buddy Emmons did it on the LP "Two Aces Together" with Shot Jackson. He played a Sho-Bud on the album and did a killer Dobro solo in it as well.
Here's his famous ending from that album: http://www.buddyemmons.com/HoldItEnd.htm |
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Russ Wever
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Kansas City
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Posted 24 Mar 2010 12:09 pm
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| Was it a Jimmy Smith ( the jazz organist)tune, originally? |
No, it was originally done by organist Bill Doggetts group.
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Charles Davidson
From:
Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2010 2:35 pm
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Mr. Doggetts claim to fame was his 1956 hit Honky Tonk [sold four million] on the rock charts, He did'nt consider himself as rock,had spent many years with swing bands.The two main instruments on Honky Tonk were guitar and tenor horn. It was one of those tunes you HAD to play in the late 50's. Back then you almost HAD to have a B-3 and a tenor horn in your band to play cover tunes and do them justice. YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.
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Andy Greatrix
From:
Edmonton Alberta
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Posted 24 Mar 2010 2:39 pm
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| Thanks, Russ! I figured out how to play it on E9th but I play it in E instead of C, although it works in Eb, as well. |
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Jim Smith
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Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2010 3:32 pm
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| Russ Wever wrote: |
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| Was it a Jimmy Smith ( the jazz organist)tune, originally? |
No, it was originally done by organist Bill Doggetts group.
~Russ |
Wow, thanks for the link Russ. I'd never heard it before. Have to say I like Buddy's version better though.  |
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Jim Smith
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Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2010 4:10 pm
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| Andy Greatrix wrote: |
| Was it a Jimmy Smith ( the jazz organist)tune, originally? |
And no, I'm not THAT Jimmy Smith!  I wish I could play like him though.  |
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Bill Hatcher
From:
Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2010 6:40 pm
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| The Doggett cut brings back some good memories. It sounds great!! |
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Dave Mudgett
From:
Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 24 Mar 2010 8:35 pm
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Yeah, Bill Doggett's original is great. The LP cover is also cool - a picture of a police officer with his hand up in a "STOP" motion - "HOLD IT!" All that old Doggett stuff is very greasy - the epitome of funky, bluesy, and jazzy R&B.
BTW - the composer credits on the original Doggett version of "Hold It" are his sax player Clifford Scott and guitar player Billy Butler. Billy Butler was a wonderful guitar player who played that seminal guitar solo on "Honky Tonk", which he co-wrote with Doggett. He had fine jazz chops, which you'll discover if you listen to some of his solo albums in the late 60s - early 70s on Prestige like Guitar Soul, Don't Be That Way, or Night Life. Danny Gatton talked about Billy all the time, and was obviously influenced by him a lot. |
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Jeff Evans
From:
Cowtown and The Bill Cox Outfit
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Posted 24 Mar 2010 9:20 pm
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| The Doggett cut . . . sounds great . . . |
Agreed.
Thanks, Russ. |
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Joachim Kettner
From:
Germany
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Posted 24 Mar 2010 11:16 pm
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| The sound is very similar to Bill Black's Combo. Who was first? |
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Mitch Drumm
From:
Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 24 Mar 2010 11:21 pm
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Top 10 R and B hit in late 1958; Doggett was recording long before Bill Black's Combo.
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Dave Hopping
From:
Aurora, Colorado
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Posted 25 Mar 2010 9:42 am
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| A little off topic but since Bill Black's Combo got mentioned,I gotta ask.I heard somewhere long ago that Bill Black of Bill Black's Combo was the same Bill Black who played bass for Elvis Presley back in the beginning.Was he? |
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Dave Mudgett
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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 25 Mar 2010 12:08 pm
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Yes, Bill Black also was Elvis' bass player in the early days.
I think one needs to acknowledge the massive debt all early rock and rollers had to the black R&B progenitors. T-Bone Walker, Louis Jordan, Joe Liggins, Big Joe Turner, Wynonie Harris, Amos Milburn, Charles Brown, Junior Parker, Bill Doggett, and many, many others. |
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John Steele (deceased)
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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 25 Mar 2010 4:49 pm
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Two other versions, just off the top of my head:
Jimmy Rivers and The Cherokees "Brisbane Bop" recording, and
an obscure live recording of George Jones live in 1965 with Buddy Emmons on steel uses it for a very short outro at the end of a set.
- John |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 25 Mar 2010 5:43 pm
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The Byrds had a version on the "Untitled"album very short.
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Jeff Evans
From:
Cowtown and The Bill Cox Outfit
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Mitch Drumm
From:
Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 26 Mar 2010 2:08 am
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There are 2 versions of "Hold It" out there by Jimmie Rivers and Vance Terry.
The CD version runs a little over 2 minutes and the other one runs nearly 6 minutes. |
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Tony Farr
From:
Madison, Tennessee, USA (deceased)
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Posted 26 Mar 2010 6:28 am
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| I have recorded it on a cople of my CD's. It's a great tune to either began or end a set when your playing in clubs. I like for us guys to realy get into a swinging jam playing it at the end of the night really up tempo. If you would like one of my cd's just email me nd we will take it from thre. Tony |
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Joachim Kettner
From:
Germany
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Posted 26 Mar 2010 10:30 am
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| Stu Schulman wrote: |
| The Byrds had a version on the "Untitled"album very short. |
Yes, I have heard it many times, but never recognised it. |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 28 Mar 2010 5:52 pm
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When I was working the clubs in LA, late 60s-early 70s, "Hold It" and "Comin' Home Baby" were the two outro tunes EVERY band ended the evening with... or at least the ones I played with. 
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