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basilh


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Post  Posted 13 Feb 2010 4:22 am    
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Just test video's that WILL be improved upon..

This is really just a test flight of what I'll do properly later (Time permitting)
Click Here Pt1
Or Here Pt2

They ARE in High Res, so when they're processed by YouTube (Presumably) they'll look better. But as I said, just a preliminary test flight..



Regarding the Fender 400/1000 800/2000 pots wiring:-

Just and explanation of the wiring of the Volume and Tone pots :-

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I can't believe it but there are those who believe the Fender with the "Jaguar" style pickup sounds thin !!
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J D Sauser


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Wellington, Florida
Post  Posted 13 Feb 2010 5:57 am     saved!
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Thanks Baz!

... J-D.
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Bill Ladd


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Wilmington, NC, USA
Post  Posted 13 Feb 2010 6:04 am    
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Yes, thanks for that.
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Mike Wheeler


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Delaware, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 13 Feb 2010 7:40 am    
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Yes, thanks Basil. Nicely done. I've always wondered about that mechanism's workings...now I understand. A lot of genius went into that guitar.
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Ross Shafer


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Petaluma, California
Post  Posted 13 Feb 2010 8:19 am    
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Thanks a ton Basil!
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richard burton


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Post  Posted 13 Feb 2010 9:26 am    
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Thanks Basil, that's a very interesting mechanism on the 210
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Gary Cosden


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Florida, USA
Post  Posted 13 Feb 2010 3:08 pm    
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Basil - thank you so much for that. A rare treat indeed to see the inner workings of this wonderful design.
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Skip Edwards

 

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LA,CA
Post  Posted 13 Feb 2010 3:27 pm    
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Wow...what a unique guitar. Thanks for posting those.
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Ben Edmonds


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Greenfield, Massachusetts, USA
Post  Posted 13 Feb 2010 8:29 pm    
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Wow, any way we could hear it? does it have that fender sound?
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Per Berner


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Skovde, Sweden
Post  Posted 14 Feb 2010 1:46 am    
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Very interesting stuff. Would love to hear it. Smile
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Doug Earnest


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Branson, MO USA
Post  Posted 14 Feb 2010 8:13 am    
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Thank you Bas! Mr. Fields was good enough to show me his 210 in St. Louis one year, but of course I could not get in to detail. It is neat to see what can be done when tradition is thrown to the wind. In my opinion Gene Fields is a true genius, and a very nice guy to go along with it.
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Allan Munro


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Pennsylvania, USA and Scotland
Post  Posted 14 Feb 2010 11:48 am    
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Basil, thank you for those posts. I had asked you in the earlier thread how this worked but I never expected such an excellent presentation. Wonderful stuff.
Thank you once more.

Best regards, Allan.....
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basilh


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Post  Posted 14 Feb 2010 12:05 pm    
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Ben Edmonds wrote:
Wow, any way we could hear it? does it have that fender sound?

I get 'round to doing a short video or soundclip, as soon as the present visit of the "Califoria Brummie"
concludes.
And THEN I'll post some clips of the Fender 800 that found its way into my Fender collection which now consists of :-
1953 Fender Stringmaster D-8 Mk1.
1964 Fender 1000 9 pedal Shortscale
1964 Fender 400 9 Pedal Shortscale
1970 Fender 800 9 Pedal Shortscale
1970 Fender PS-210 8+3
and a Fender 50th Anniversary Telecaster. (It's NOT out of place in the present company)
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HowardR


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N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
Post  Posted 14 Feb 2010 4:06 pm    
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Bravo......thanks Bas......amazing detail.....and amazing for you to do this.....
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basilh


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Post  Posted 18 Feb 2010 5:34 am     Just the Changer mechanics
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Some stills of the COMPLETE changer and its components. Quite revealing. One is left wondering how much the tooling-up for these guitars cost Fender as there are so many specialised pressings (Case Hardened) and castings that are SPECIFIC to just this guitar. The ONLY generic item used is the small Fender bell crank and the pedal rod ends. (And the legs of course, common to ALL fender pedal Guitars)

I WILL eventually get 'round to doing this job properly with a BBC Sony camera and a "pro" operator.

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basilh


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Post  Posted 18 Feb 2010 5:36 am    
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HowardR wrote:
Bravo......thanks Bas......amazing detail.....and amazing for you to do this.....

Hello my friend... long time no see ? How is thee ?
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Ross Shafer


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Petaluma, California
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2010 7:03 am    
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Thanks again Baz! Now all the dots connect for me. They certainly must have had a bunch of proprietary tooling...those few PS210 that did get built must've cost a small fortune to produce!
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Dennis Olearchik

 

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Newtown, PA
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2010 4:13 pm    
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Basil, the 3 you tube videos were very informative and entertaining. Thank you very much!
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Scott Howard


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Georgetown, TN, USA
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2010 6:45 pm    
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Thanks a million . It was some real "out of the box thinking" for any time even now . But about 40 years ago .
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Allan Munro


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Post  Posted 18 Feb 2010 7:21 pm    
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I have just now seen the third in the series. Great stuff - thanks again for the postings.

Regards, Allan.....
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basilh


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Post  Posted 5 May 2011 12:19 am    
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Ben Edmonds wrote:
Wow, any way we could hear it? does it have that fender sound?

You tell me !!
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Per Berner


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Skovde, Sweden
Post  Posted 5 May 2011 12:26 am    
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Maybe not the old Fender sound, but definitely a 60's vibe with a modern twist. Really nice! Reminds me a bit of the sound on Lloyd Green's early instrumentals. But that could be the playing style as well.
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basilh


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United Kingdom
Post  Posted 5 May 2011 1:06 am    
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Appreciated the comment,
Yeah.. the style is a little dated as I am..The tone isn't like the 400-1000-800-2000 series because of the guitar materials involved..

The PS-210 uses Extruded and welded Aluminium for the body and Maple for the necks, BUT, Fender always used Swamp Ash for their bodies and Aluminium/Magnesium alloy for the frame of the 400 etc series.
The MAIN body of the 400 etc series was Swamp Ash with just a support froam of the alloy, whilst the main body of the PS-210 was the Aluminium frame with much less wood used in the guitar.

Swamp Ash would have a pube* less sustain but that would really be just academic as the sustain is determined by many more factors than just the wood.

*Pube = a UK engineering colloquialism approximately equivalent to 2 gnat's whiskers.
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