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Topic: KING Record Label EXPERT.........please. |
Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 2 Feb 2010 5:12 pm |
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If anyone of you out there, is an expert on discovering what musicians played on what recording sessions for the various labels............
I'd like to challenge your mind, curiosity and skills.
Clyde Moody recorded "I've Only Myself to Blame".....
On KING Label......sometime in during the early 1950's.
Can ANYONE tell me WHO was on the recording session?
This steel player also appeared on a number of sessions with a vocalist named "Dewey PRICE" (NOT Ray!) May have a band called the Carolina Hillbillies. |
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Al Terhune
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Newcastle, WA
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Posted 2 Feb 2010 5:51 pm
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Well, Mr. Montee...I have a friend in Ohio who is a bit obsessed with the King Records label -- which, I believe, was situated in Cincinnati. He clamors on about how King Records put EVERYTHING out (which he loves), from blues to country to gospel to whatever could be pressed onto vinyl.
I'm going to hazard a guess that no one else would even begin to dream of...because Jerry Byrd was from Ohio, I'm going to say that it was he who played on this session.
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Mike Neer
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NJ
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Clyde Mattocks
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Kinston, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2010 6:05 pm
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There was a great article in last months Bluegrass Unlimited magazine on King Records. It covered it more from the bluegrass angle but was very interesting nontheless. They did everything from hillbilly (as it was then called) to blugrass, to race (as early R&B was called).
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Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 2 Feb 2010 6:07 pm I dunno 'bout that!
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This particular steel player has bugged me for years now. So much of his stuff sounds like JERRY BYRD, his intro's, back-up, solo's, etc., yet the TONE is completely missing, it sounds tinny and shrill and for this reason I'm convinced it's NOT Jerry Byrd. Other aspects of his/her playing likewise lacks that JERRY BYRD fines'.........
THUS, my dying reason to learn factually WHO it really was. |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 2 Feb 2010 6:10 pm
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There are a lot of great chords and slants like Jerry, but there's something not quite Jerry about it. The way he slides into chords, the tone--a few things of note.
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Blake Hawkins
From:
Florida
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Posted 2 Feb 2010 8:11 pm
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Roy Ayres did some recording with King.
I believe that Slim Idaho also did sessions.
Neither one sounds like Jerry Byrd though. |
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Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 2 Feb 2010 10:08 pm Mike Neer and Clyde Moody.......................
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YES, Mike, I do believe that's JERRY BYRD on Clyde's "I Love You Because". He did quite a few with Moody.
The SOUND is so markedly different and BETTER than the fellow playing on the record I mentioned. |
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Mitch Drumm
From:
Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 3 Feb 2010 7:59 am
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Ray:
Moody recorded with several steel players, but I could not find an explicit reference to who was on that particular song. So it may remain speculation. Any of the following are possibilities:
1947: Billy Bowman played steel on Clyde’s “Shenandoah Waltz” on King.
Late 1947: Moody recorded with Boots Woodall’s Radio Rangers on King. Boots was a steel player.
March 1949: Moody records “I Know What It Means To Be Lonesome” for King; supposedly with Zeke Turner on guitar and Bob Foster on steel.
I’ve Only Myself To Blame was recorded in October 1950. Other tunes recorded by Moody that day were Ivy, Six White Horses and Remember Me. Have you heard them and eliminated Jerry?
Here is a somewhat scrambled page from the Danville, Virginia newspaper, dated January 20, 1951, with a lot of info on Moody:
http://tinyurl.com/y9gbkow
According to the article, at that time Moody’s band included Jack Fleming on steel. This is only 3 months after recording I’ve Only Myself To Blame, but I don’t know if Moody ever recorded with Fleming.
Jerry Byrd was on this Moody session:
1 December 1949
AFRAID
I LOVE YOU BECAUSE
TEARS ON MY PILLOW
THE ANGELS MUST HAVE CRIED ALL NIGHT
Isn’t that Jerry on Moody's “I Won’t Care A Hundred Years From Now”? If so, all of the following songs may include JB because they were all cut at the same session:
December 1947
I’M SORRY IF THAT’S THE WAY YOU FEEL
YOU ARE THE RAINBOW IN MY DREAMS
THAT LITTLE LOG CABIN OF MINE
LITTLE BLOSSOM
WHY DON'T YOU COME BACK TO ME
WHEN YOU HAVE NO ONE TO LOVE YOU
BLUE MEXICO SKIES
THERE’S NO ROOM IN MY HEART FOR THE BLUES
RED ROSES TIED IN BLUE
IT'S TOO LATE TO SAY YOU WERE WRONG
OVER THE HILL
ROCKIN' ALONE IN AN OLD ROCKIN' CHAIR
CAROLINA WALTZ
YOU'RE A REAL SWEETEHEART TO ME
THE LAST GOODBYE |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 3 Feb 2010 10:06 am
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| sacramento's jon hartley fox has just finished and released a new book about the history of king records. titled 'king of the queen city' it has gotten some great reviews. jon's wife is dobroist kathy barwick. |
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