Emmons Serial number has me baffled.

[Tom Palmer]

A friend of mine has an Emmons Push Pull, serial number 2780 with no D after the number. It has a bolt on changer with an aluminum neck. He purchased this new in '67 or '68. It was one of the first Emmons guitars in the Northwest. I have known when he bought it for several years so I assumed it was a cut tail. I saw it for the first time the other day and was very surprised it was a bolt on.
According to the Carter chart it is 1980. We know that is not correct so what is correct? If someone out there knows, please chime in. - Tom

[Bill Lowe]

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... ce&start=0

[Cliff Kane]

2780 is an invoice number before they went to the xxxx D style of serial numbers that Carter lists. My '66 D-10 is #2736 (no D), so 2780 is right in that range. Carter shows '66 guitars as having the post invoice serial numbering, but a lot of '66 have the numbers like your friend's guitar.
The Carter page states:
"In the years 1964 and 1965, it appears that serial numbers were taken off of the sales invoice; and that these guitars were not consecutively numbered (as they may have used an invoice or 2 in between guitar sales for pickup sales or string sales, etc.)"

That is a good guitar!

*Hey Bill, we must have been posting at the same time. Thanks for linking my old thread with the same question.
Cliff

[Chris Lucker]

The invoice numbering system for Emmons started sometime after June 1965 and lasted through most of 1967. Yours is an invoice number guitar, but I cannot say whether it is 1966 or 1967, but it does not really matter as describing the guitar as an invoice number Bolt-on with a 27xx number tells you it is probably a Post Jig guitar with white sided pickups that are around 16k and a 1964 100K pot and probably sounds very nice and you should be very proud of it. Do you have a wood case or a cardboard case?

[Tom Palmer]

Thank you to all of you who have contributed. I think we now know as much as we are going to know. This guitar has been through the mill and still has a killer sound, especially in the hands of its owner, Jim Webb. It was in a fire at one time and is really nasty underneath from spending years in smokey bars. It could use a real good cleaning, however, the sound does not seem to be effected at all. Jim is probably the Northwest finest player. He was a full time musician for years but lately has been the caregiver for his aging mother. He rarely gets out to play but he still practices several hours daily. His skills compare to some of the major national players. I only wish he could get some time off to attend one of the big conventions. I know how much he would enjoy it and how much others would enjoy hearing him.

[Danny Spinks]

I have 2771 with no D. I bought it new in November 1967. A previous owner of 2768 with no D, in exchange of e-mails years ago, said he was given a manufacture date of September 1967 for that guitar.

As for flocking, mine has brown.

[Rick Johnson]

Could it be that my Push/Pull Bolt On
S/N 2078 was not made in 1975 ?

Rick

www.rickjohnsoncabs.com

[Lynn Stafford]

Danny,

I am now the current owner of #2768. I'd really be interested in knowing more about its history. Please email me if you don't mind.

[Gordon Sharp]

Anyone know anything or what year the number 1104 was made its also a bolt on-cut tail. Gordon Sharp Kingston Tenn. thanks

[Shorty Smith]

I got 1745D. it was made in 73, Shorty

[Larry Moore]

I have S/N # 1153-D with 8-4 D-10 PP Rosewood.
As per the Carter list it is a 1967. I bought it in 1969 used. Hope this helps.
Larry

[Gordon Sharp]

Thanks Larry thats what I had been told,just was not sure.These guitars are in a world of there own. Gordon Sharp Kingston Tenn.

[Shorty Smith]

Gordon it looks like it might be about a 74 or 75 by its apparence, it is really a nice steel, I love mine, Shorty