Tammy's Apartment #9

Bill Moran · Post by **Bill Moran** » 5 Dec 2009 6:19 pm

Who was the steel player on Tammy's first recording of Apartment #9 ? My guess, Jimmy Day.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 5 Dec 2009 6:27 pm

I always thought it was Pete Drake, but I am probably wrong.

Bent Romnes · Post by **Bent Romnes** » 5 Dec 2009 6:49 pm

I thought it was Lloyd Green, but Richard could possibly be right...

Rick Campbell · Post by **Rick Campbell** » 5 Dec 2009 7:26 pm

I think Pete with Tammy, and Lloyd did the super good break on Johnny Paycheck's cut.

Walter Stettner · Post by **Walter Stettner** » 6 Dec 2009 2:26 am

For those who want to compare different versions of the song, I have posted four tracks on my website. Here are the versions by Johnny Paycheck and Charley Pride (with Lloyd on Steel)), Bobby Austin (w/Ralph Mooney) and Tammy Wynette (w/pete Drake).

http://www.lloydgreentribute.com/Austri ... /Forum.htm

Have fun listening!

Kind Regards, Walter

Ray McCarthy · Post by **Ray McCarthy** » 6 Dec 2009 3:22 am

I think Dave Hartley's steel playing on his version is second to none. Check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHLHosfNJRs

Kevin Hatton · Post by **Kevin Hatton** » 6 Dec 2009 11:02 am

The genius playing that was Pete Drake. This song is a study for steel players in when NOT to play. Pete Drake creates anticipation here.

Jamie Lennon · Post by **Jamie Lennon** » 6 Dec 2009 3:17 pm

Well heres Tammys daughters version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg6EwjYepPo

Ray Minich · Post by **Ray Minich** » 6 Dec 2009 6:26 pm

Neat stuff! Thanks.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 7 Dec 2009 2:55 am

Lloyd was my 2nd choice. But, as I remember, Pete was doing most of Tammy's stuff at that time. Pete was a master of what and when to play and not to play. Nothing flashy, but always appropriate.

Dave Burr · Post by **Dave Burr** » 7 Dec 2009 10:30 am

Walter, Thanks for posting the 4 different versions for comparison. All great, no doubt!! What is the chronological order in which they were recorded?

Johnny Bush did a great version of it too... actually, he did "two" great versions of it. The latest was on the Johnny Paycheck tribute and had Lloyd playing it more beautifully than ever. I also have the earlier cut on one of my computers at home, but never did know for sure who played the steel it.

Thanks again!

Walter Stettner · Post by **Walter Stettner** » 7 Dec 2009 11:54 am

I think Bobby Austin and Johnny Paycheck were first, followed by Charley Pride and Tammy Wynette. George Jones also did a version in the early 70s, plus the Johnny Bush versions Dave had mentioned.

Kind Regards, Walter

Dave Burr · Post by **Dave Burr** » 7 Dec 2009 2:03 pm

Thanks Walter!

Charley Dickason · Post by **Charley Dickason** » 7 Dec 2009 6:34 pm

I really have to agree with Ray, Dave does as good or better than anyone on the four songs in Walter's post (yes, including Lloyd Green). I bet Lloyd listens to Dave's Utube videos and thinks to himself: "wow, I wish I was that good!!!"

Joe Goldmark · Post by **Joe Goldmark** » 7 Dec 2009 9:11 pm

As I recall, Lloyd says that he played on the Tammy version, in the Pete Drake style.

Joe

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 7 Dec 2009 10:24 pm

As I recall, Lloyd says that he played on the Tammy version, in the Pete Drake style.

Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Chris LeDrew · Post by **Chris LeDrew** » 8 Dec 2009 8:11 am

Posted at the request of Lloyd Green, regarding the information and comments on this thread:

Lloyd Green wrote: I have never said I played on Tammy Wynette’s “Apartment #9”, nor would I claim ownership of any steel part I did not record. Pete Drake was the steel player of note on that one.

Regarding Charley Dickason’s post in the same thread; You’d lose that bet fellow, although David Hartley is a good steel player. I never wanted nor needed to play or sound like anyone except myself and my own ideas. And keep in mind you were listening to clips recorded more than 40 years ago. If you listen to the song as I recorded it with Johnny Bush about 5 years ago you’ll hear a vast difference in sound and technology….and playing.

Lloyd Green

Greg Wisecup · Post by **Greg Wisecup** » 8 Dec 2009 8:29 am

Mike Sweeney · Post by **Mike Sweeney** » 8 Dec 2009 9:10 am

There are several great recorded versions of this song. A lot of them are mentioned and as Lloyd said the version he did with Bush on the Paycheck Tribute c.d. is great. But I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the Bush cut from the late '60's with Jimmy Day. His way of approaching the song is worth giving a listen. I had the pleasure of playing on a Tammy tribute album a few years ago and did my best to get the Pete thing down and yes we cut Apt. #9. It is my favorite thing that Pete ever did.
This is one of those tunes that would be interesting to find out how many times it's been cut and by who.

Kevin Hatton · Post by **Kevin Hatton** » 8 Dec 2009 9:18 am

Charley Dickason, on what planet do you live? I believe David Hartley would highly disagree with you. Lloyd Green IS a living legend. Thanks for that post Chris.

Frank Freniere · Post by **Frank Freniere** » 8 Dec 2009 9:19 am

Thanks, Chris - it's always great to hear from Lloyd.

Joe Goldmark · Post by **Joe Goldmark** » 8 Dec 2009 10:08 am

I stand corrected. I believe I confused it with D.I.V.O.R.C.E. Chris, the next time you check in with Lloyd, ask him about that one. I'm pretty sure there was a prominent Tammy Wynette hit that we all assumed was Pete Drake, that was actually Lloyd Green playing in that style.

Joe

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 8 Dec 2009 6:46 pm

Joe,

I think I remember reading that Lloyd did play on D.I.V.O.R.C.E and it was the first time the "F" lever was recorded. But, could be wrong on that too.

Ken Byng · Post by **Ken Byng** » 10 Dec 2009 5:08 am

I always felt that Pete Drake's intro on Wynette's Apartment #9 epitomised the 'ShoBud sound' from that era, as well as being perfectly executed.

Good to see Lloyd clarifying matters straight from the horses mouth.

Rick Campbell · Post by **Rick Campbell** » 10 Dec 2009 5:51 am

Besides being such a great great player, something else I like about Lloyd is that he calls it like he sees it and doesn't wear the Rose Colored Glasses that are so common here on the forum.

Style is what seperates guys like Lloyd, Pete Drake,John Hughey, Dicky Overbey, Buddy Emmons, Weldon Myrick, and some others, from the everything sounds alike, first string raise overuse, crowd. I won't mention any names here, because I don't keep up with the new players enough to know who's doing it, but you know who you are. I guess that's your style, but it gets kind of old to me after a couple of songs.