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John McClung
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Jack, if this is a '97 model, does that make it the "older" models, just before Bruce changed to current style bell cranks (maybe he made other changes, I'm not quite the expert on this). Lovely guitar, matches my setup quite nicely, it's tugging at my sleeves...

Closeup pix of the undercarriage would be quite helpful. You Zum experts can advise, too, please.
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One more question: I count 8 knee levers on your copedent, but you state just 7 in your description; which is it?

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John McClung wrote:One more question: I count 8 knee levers on your copedent, but you state just 7 in your description; which is it?

Thanks.
Hi John, This Zum is sale pending. Early model John has the bellcrank with the slotted hole for the hook rod to be fastened on. I believe a 12/7 Lawrence pickup.
Man I'm sorry for the confusion, The Zum has 7/7 I was going to add another lever but didn't, that would have been a useful change the out/RKL, --E/--F.
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Well, sorry to miss out on a Zum practically made for me, if it wasn't for budgets I'd have so many other cool things! Oh well...

So that change you didn't add: would string 7 go down to E, then back up to F, or a more linear down to F, then down further to E? Would have been a nice change, I agree.

But I gotta tell you: I added a 2nd RKL on my Mullen, and it was not a good idea, at least for me, can't get to the secondary lever without completely messing up the volume.

I even swapped positions: the farther away KL was the secondary, but the stretch of the knee first to the right, then left to activate the lever, was slow. The front lever has to be farther to the right so you don't hit the rear RKL simultaneously, requiring that 2 step action.

Right now I have the secondary RKL on the rear, and it sort of can be used, but it's slow, and the volume gets messed up.

I think a 3rd KL on right knee might work pushing right, a mirror of my setup on left knee. The ergonomics that way are more feasible, at least in theory. But the volume pedal really is a big factor. I'm sticking with just 2 right KL's, end of story!

I hope when the next owner of your Zum sells I'm in a better buying position.
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John McClung wrote:Well, sorry to miss out on a Zum practically made for me, if it wasn't for budgets I'd have so many other cool things! Oh well...

So that change you didn't add: would string 7 go down to E, then back up to F, or a more linear down to F, then down further to E? Would have been a nice change, I agree.

But I gotta tell you: I added a 2nd RKL on my Mullen, and it was not a good idea, at least for me, can't get to the secondary lever without completely messing up the volume.

I even swapped positions: the farther away KL was the secondary, but the stretch of the knee first to the right, then left to activate the lever, was slow. The front lever has to be farther to the right so you don't hit the rear RKL simultaneously, requiring that 2 step action.

Right now I have the secondary RKL on the rear, and it sort of can be used, but it's slow, and the volume gets messed up.

I think a 3rd KL on right knee might work pushing right, a mirror of my setup on left knee. The ergonomics that way are more feasible, at least in theory. But the volume pedal really is a big factor. I'm sticking with just 2 right KL's, end of story!

I hope when the next owner of your Zum sells I'm in a better buying position.
John, The answer to a lot of problems with the Kluster Copedent, would be SLACK in the knee levers you need slack in one to move the other, most likely a half tone on out/RKL, I hope that will help, Jack
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