Break a third string.......OK But break a 10th string?????

Jack Mattison · Post by **Jack Mattison** » 19 Oct 2009 2:58 pm

I know many of you talk about always, or sometimes breaking the third string. I haven,t had that problem, however...... This last Sunday I was playing my D10 ShoBud with the "Praise and Worship" team at church. All of a sudden there was a loud bang, and I looked and my 10th string had snaped. It didn't throw my tunning off, so I kept on playing. So whats up with that???? 10th string!!!!.

Dan Galysh · Post by **Dan Galysh** » 19 Oct 2009 3:02 pm

A couple of shows back, I had the 10th string unravel on me during the first song and it got in the way of my solo. That hasn't happened to me in a decade or so, but it does happen once in awhile.

Jerry Overstreet · Post by **Jerry Overstreet** » 19 Oct 2009 3:14 pm

......had it happen a few times also.

Michael Haselman · Post by **Michael Haselman** » 19 Oct 2009 3:16 pm

I assume you're talking E9. With the A pedal raising a whole, used to happen to me a lot. Until I started using Jagwires from good ole b0b. String breakage just doesn't happen anymore on any strings.

Dick Sexton · Post by **Dick Sexton** » 19 Oct 2009 3:46 pm

I've been lucky, never broken one on the job. Can't say as much for the 3rd string... If it hasn't been to long since I've changed a set of strings and I have an important gig, where breaking a string might be an embarrassment and/or inconvenience, I at least change the 3rd, 5th, 6th and 10th. Maybe even the 4th, for good measure. Never broken any other string between regular changes. If you practice on the same guitar you gig(I don't), change those out and be safe. Oh, and occasionally a new string will break, a fact of life playing stringed instruments. Just my opinion of course...

Paul Sutherland · Post by **Paul Sutherland** » 19 Oct 2009 3:52 pm

About a month ago I broke the tenth string on my C-6th neck, the low C!!! I wasn't even playing that neck at the time, and I don't play all that much C-6th. Plus the string was only about six months old, which is not old by my standards for that neck. It made no sense, but it happened.

admin · Post by **b0b** » 19 Oct 2009 3:55 pm

I use to break the 10th string now and then when I used Ernie Ball strings, many years ago. I've never broken a wound Jagwire string. Never.

Larry Sewell · Post by **Larry Sewell** » 19 Oct 2009 5:44 pm

Jack
I've broken 10th strings on a single neck E-9, on SD10, and even a 10th string on my D10. I would venture to guess they where all from poor right hand technics ( putting too much wrist pressure on the strings)
As Bob says, "try jagwires" I've used them in recent years, and haven't broke a string.

Clyde Mattocks · Post by **Clyde Mattocks** » 19 Oct 2009 5:50 pm

I break a 10th occasionally. I lower to A and raise to D, so that's asking a lot of a wound string. 038's just won't take it, so I use a 036.

Jody Sanders · Post by **Jody Sanders** » 19 Oct 2009 6:25 pm

I have never actually broke a 10th string, but I have had them unravel. I don't leave a 10th string on more than 3 weeks. Sometime I think it is "over kill", but there is nothing worse than breaking or having a string unravel on a job. Or a knee lever falling off, LOL. I use Frenchy's Silent Series strings in nickel. Best and longer lasting than any strings I have ever used. Jody.

Luke Morell · Post by **Luke Morell** » 19 Oct 2009 6:45 pm

I've broken more 10th strings on my Emmons than I have 3rd.

Jonathan Cullifer · Post by **Jonathan Cullifer** » 19 Oct 2009 8:28 pm

I've broken two. Both off-brand strings. I learned to change my strings more often and use better strings (Jagwires, like everyone else here)

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 20 Oct 2009 4:16 am

Like Jody, I've had them unravel before. That was way back when I was using Ernie Ball strings. I don't believe I've ever had one break completely, though.

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 20 Oct 2009 4:24 am

Maybe not all that common but the pull still stresses the string.You never said how old the string was. I have broken a few over the years and it is hard to say why other than the string gave out after a whole bunch of A Pedal mashes.

Roger Rettig · Post by **Roger Rettig** » 20 Oct 2009 4:42 am

I've broken enough 10th strings on my E9 neck to convince me to carry extra ones around. As well as having a number of spare sets of strings at all times, I also keep an extra 6-pack of 3rds, 5ths and .038" 10ths.

I believe (in my case, at least) that the heel of my right hand is constantly rubbing that string where it runs over the changer. Either it's the constant wear, or it may be that an undue amount of perspiration is being deposited on the string. Wahtever it is, it's always at the changer-end that it breaks.

I never had a C6th 10th break on me, though....

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 20 Oct 2009 4:46 am

I've had one E9th 10th string break in 28 years on my Franklin. It was my own fault as the strings were old and should have been replaced. It was just "metal fatigue" that will happen with "old" strings.

Les Green · Post by **Les Green** » 20 Oct 2009 9:03 am

I break more 10th strings on my MSA than I do 3rds. They always seem to un-ravel. I always carry spares of all gauges I use plus a few extra sets.

Jim Lindsey (Louisiana) · Post by **Jim Lindsey (Louisiana)** » 20 Oct 2009 10:06 am

I've only broken a few 10th strings over the years (maybe two or three), and definitely my share of 3rd strings ... I've even broken a couple of 4th and 5th strings before ... but the one that really surprised me was breaking my 6th string (.22P) one time. What made that one the worst was that it whipped back when it broke and stuck in my right ring finger knuckle! OUCH!

Jack Mattison · Post by **Jack Mattison** » 20 Oct 2009 10:26 am

WOW...... Didn't know that many of you had this same problem, at one time or another. Thank you for all the replys. I have been using SIT Sho-E9th strings. 10th [.036]. I am going to try the jagwire, as recomended by alot of you. I think I will try the "Ricky Davis" set, since he recomends them for shobuds. It was getting time to change anyway, which may have been part of my problem. Once again guys....... Thanks for the help. Can always depend on all of you on this forum for help when needed. Bless ya all..... Jack<><

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 20 Oct 2009 10:49 am

all strings are like cars...old or new...they can break whenever they feel like it...no guarantees!

Michael Haselman · Post by **Michael Haselman** » 20 Oct 2009 12:31 pm

Don't know why, maybe it has to do with playing a Mullen, but since I switched to Jagwires a number of years ago I don't break ANY strings anymore. I only change about once every 3 months.

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 20 Oct 2009 12:35 pm

I break a 10th string every once in a while.
But I have an old pedal steel that hasn't been playing in about 5 years and, in that whole time, it has never broken a string!

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 20 Oct 2009 2:24 pm

steels that aren't played break fewer strings than steels that are played. you can quote me on this!

Tommy Shown · Post by **Tommy Shown** » 20 Oct 2009 6:11 pm

It has happenend to me before too,Jack. I was playing here at the house one day.And the dang broke. It's just one of life's minor inconviences. I have broken a third string many times, here at home practicing and performing. That can be quite embarassing. I was backing up a guy singing Leroy Parnells' song "On the Road", one night. Putting in some killer fills when all of sudden I heard a POP! I looked down and saw it was my third string.The string part of a group of strings that I used in the song to get the same effect the picker had on the record. So what did I do I had to improvise until break to put another one on.Jerry Brightman suggests on the day of the show while at home, to go ahead and change the 3rd out. This will save alot of embarrassment. And the string will have time to stretch.
Tommy

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 21 Oct 2009 2:53 am

I don't think it is a "problem". I don't see breaking strings now and then as a problem at all unless they are breaking( new strings) on a very regular basis.

I think we should look at the physics of it all and understand that we are pulling a tight string tighter.

Also what comes into play is not just the age of the string or how long it has been on the guitar, but how many times has it been pulled ?How much practice, how many gigs ? How much repitition ?

Cars have odometers to keep track of use, we have maybe an idea at best and probably a bad string to boot.

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