Which knees raise/lower your E strings?

Ryan Barwin · Post by **Ryan Barwin** » 13 Oct 2009 4:26 am

There's already an Emmons vs. Day setup poll...but here's a similar one: which knee levers raise and lower your E strings?

My setup is standard Emmons....raise on LKL, lower on LKR.

Mike Perlowin · Post by **Mike Perlowin** » 13 Oct 2009 10:47 am

There are both advantages and disadvantages to both having the 2 changes on the same knee, and on different knees.

Having them on different knees allows for a smooth transition between the raise and lower. But it means that you can't use the B to Bb change (if you have it) with one or the other changes.

Putting the E raises and lowers on the same knee lets you use the B to Bb change with both, (and I do) but the transition between them is much harder to get smoohly. More often than not, you get a little bump on the unaltered E note.

I can avoid getting that bump on my 2 older MSAs by raising my knee up to the point where it's hitting the vertical, and catching the levers as close to the undercarriage as possible. The knee levers appear to be a little further apart on the Millennium (I haven't measured the distances)and it's harder to make the transition as smooth as I can get it on the older guitars.

(Even so, I still prefer the Millennium.)

admin · Post by **b0b** » 13 Oct 2009 11:02 am

Jimmy Day didn't raise on LKR, lower on LKL as you might have expected: <center>

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Bo Borland · Post by **Bo Borland** » 13 Oct 2009 11:33 am

rkl to raise. rkr to lower.

Ryan Barwin · Post by **Ryan Barwin** » 14 Oct 2009 4:38 am

b0b wrote:Jimmy Day didn't raise on LKR, lower on LKL as you might have expected

According to the book by Winnie Winston and Bill Keith, he did raise on LKR and lower on LKL. The majority of players who use the Day pedal setup do that too.

Terry Sneed · Post by **Terry Sneed** » 14 Oct 2009 4:21 pm

Emmons- raise on LKL lower on LKR

terry

Jeremy Threlfall · Post by **Jeremy Threlfall** » 14 Oct 2009 8:21 pm

what Bo said

Hap Young · Post by **Hap Young** » 15 Oct 2009 5:52 am

Am I the only one who uses this set up? RKL raises, RKR lowers.

admin · Post by **b0b** » 15 Oct 2009 8:33 am

Hap Young wrote:Am I the only one who uses this set up? RKL raises, RKR lowers.

9 people have answered the poll with that option so far. You're not alone.

Billy Peddycoart · Post by **Billy Peddycoart** » 15 Oct 2009 8:57 am

I also lower RKR and raise RKL.. I like it that way. The left foot is doing so much of the work and the E's change is the most used, so why not put those E changes on the right, the foot is on volume.. anyway it works good for Me.. the old MSA way..Billy

Tom Keller · Post by **Tom Keller** » 15 Oct 2009 12:22 pm

I use the sho bud set up.

Jim Lindsey (Louisiana) · Post by **Jim Lindsey (Louisiana)** » 15 Oct 2009 12:25 pm

I also raise my "E" strings on the right knee left and lower them on the right knee right. Here's my whole Copedent below:

This setup has always worked extremely well for me and I really like it. The only problem with it is when I sit in on someone else's guitar who's setup is reversed to mine ... I get to playing and forget to think "backwards" on the knee levers and end up coming up with some interesting but less than desirable sounds!

Geoff Marshall · Post by **Geoff Marshall** » 16 Oct 2009 6:10 am

Hap - That was standard factory set up for MSA Classics.

G.

Darvin Willhoite · Post by **Darvin Willhoite** » 16 Oct 2009 6:02 pm

I lower my E's with the RKR. I didn't raise the E's until I had been playing about 20 years. When I did put that change on my guitars, the LKR was the only position I had for it to go, so that's where it went. I'm used to it now, and it works for me.

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