Leaving Your Steel at Church

richard burton · Post by **richard burton** » 18 Sep 2009 1:50 pm

Thank God I'm a non-believer

I don't have any of these problems, as I only ever visit a church under duress

Life is so much simpler when you're a non-believer

Greg Wisecup · Post by **Greg Wisecup** » 18 Sep 2009 1:53 pm

It won't easy be when you die..............

richard burton · Post by **richard burton** » 18 Sep 2009 2:04 pm

prove it

Shane Glover · Post by **Shane Glover** » 18 Sep 2009 2:19 pm

Hi Richard

It does not matter to me one way or the other.
But it does seem funny that you are thanking GOD for your non belief. I wonder if disproving would be any easier than proving ?

Shane

richard burton · Post by **richard burton** » 18 Sep 2009 2:33 pm

Shane.....
never mind

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 18 Sep 2009 3:04 pm

Mark Treepaz wrote:It's a sad state of affairs when you have to be concerned about safely leaving equipment in a place of worship. Oh , I know that's reality and the world we live in and all of that. Nonetheless, still sad.

I think it's more of "who's around", kids, other young musicians , curious minds etc.. When I played in Church it was also a School, the sanctuary was always open.

The Church LOCKED UP the sound booth so I guess they had some sort of concerns as well.

But, I agree that it is sad, but this has been like this forever. I remember going to Church as a kid and the Father came out on Sunday and told everyone the PA system and Mic were stolen the day before. This was back in the 60's !

Bryan Rankins · Post by **Bryan Rankins** » 18 Sep 2009 3:07 pm

If you have any instrument of value, whether you are a professional or not, you need to check out Heritage Instrument Services, www.musicians.com , I think. They are awesome and resonable. They even provide devaluation reimbursement if your guitar is damaged. This I know first hand. Check them out.

Jeff Hyman · Post by **Jeff Hyman** » 18 Sep 2009 3:53 pm

Mark Treepaz wrote:
Cal Sharp wrote:I typed in $10,000 here and got a quick quote of $110.
http://www.musicproinsurance.com/
Don't know anything about this company, maybe your wife does, Greg.
Reading up on it, it doesn't like seem too bad of a deal. The actual carrier of the policy is Hanover.

When I checked this out a few months ago, they need actual receipts of the equipment. Bummer. Much of my gear is decades old. Where is there a good place to get a true replacement value quote/receipt ?

Cal Sharp · Post by **Cal Sharp** » 18 Sep 2009 4:05 pm

I had that problem with my insurance company once when my Harley, which was really old and almost a basket case, burnt up, and a friend of mine who worked at a Harley dealership straightened it out with them. If you had pictures of the equipment, maybe w/serial numbers, Seymour could probably help.

BTW, I used to have an MSA that I hated. Sounded terrible, wouldn't stay in tune, couldn't get anyone to buy it. So I broke into a Catholic church in Houston and left it there.

Rick Campbell · Post by **Rick Campbell** » 18 Sep 2009 4:54 pm

Bill Stroud wrote:I've got 7 Steels but I wouldn't want any of them to be stole by a theif. But it could happen.

Who else would you expect to steal something?

You guys better hope that no theives are reading the forum, or they'll rob your home on Sunday morning while you're playing at church.

Cal Sharp - MSA

KENNY KRUPNICK · Post by **KENNY KRUPNICK** » 18 Sep 2009 6:50 pm

I have 3 steels,and leave the Sierra at church along with the amp,and effects. I also leave a bass,and bass amp there,and a lead guitar amp. We have an alarm system too.

Cal Sharp · Post by **Cal Sharp** » 20 Sep 2009 3:54 pm

Cal Sharp wrote:

The chance of some cell phone driver rear-ending you and smashing your guitar is probably just as likely as getting it stolen from a church or a bar.

Mark Eaton wrote:

I am aware of a number of episodes where churches have been broken into and music gear has been stolen, so I respectfully disagree with Cal's logic.

You haven't driven around Nashville much, have you?

Stan Paxton · Post by **Stan Paxton** » 20 Sep 2009 6:43 pm

For past 3 1/2 yr since I don't travel anymore, have left a steel & whole setup at the church. Never a problem, and really I guess since it is a Church thing, we do this in faith that it will be alright.

However, about 40yr or so ago, I left a 6-string and amp at church all the time, and the amp was stolen along with all the church sound equipment during a break-in. The guitar was in the case under a seat in the choir area, and I guess they overlooked it.

So, I guess it boils down to not too much different from leaving it at home, where I'm sure there has been break-ins and equipment stolen. ...I do have a 2nd set-up at home (well protected with alarm system) for practice, which I don't take advantage of like I ought to. ... $:\$

Ray Montee · Post by **Ray Montee** » 20 Sep 2009 9:37 pm

Whether it's a church, school or honky tonk bar, most of the property carriers, selling insurance to those enitities, will likely NOT cover expensive musical equipment left there by others.......

NOT always the case, but a majority of the time I believe you'll find it to be the case; your claim if not denied completely, it would most likely have a very limited value, perhaps $250.00 +/-

Just something to think about.

Matthew Keon · Post by **Matthew Keon** » 21 Sep 2009 5:15 am

All my gear is covered under a separate insurance policy through Heritage. They specialize in instrument related coverage. It's very affordable and offers piece of mind when I'm out playing.

Website at: http://www.musicins.com/

Terry Sneed · Post by **Terry Sneed** » 21 Sep 2009 8:51 am

I've been leaving my steel at our little Country Church for years and years, except for the times I bring it home to practice. Our Church does have insurance, but no security alarm.

Terry

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 21 Sep 2009 9:46 am

i would think that having faith in the lord should extend to his house also. if it doesn't work out, gee, i don't know what to tell you.

Gary Preston · Post by **Gary Preston** » 21 Sep 2009 12:23 pm

I had no problem leaving one of my steels at Church . My guitars are insured regardless of where the are left . G.P.

Larry Johnson · Post by **Larry Johnson** » 21 Sep 2009 1:55 pm

I leave my steel at church. One time we were broken into,and they took my pac-a-seat off the stage, and used it to stand on ,to get out of a window. I felt funny showing the police. Our church has insurance.

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 21 Sep 2009 2:55 pm

Chain it down. No-one ever steals the organ.

Bill Ford · Post by **Bill Ford** » 24 Sep 2009 12:16 pm

Check your Church ins. carrier,ours do not cover personal property.

I checked with my homeowner ins.(Nationwide)My Church and home stuff are covered (very limited). The price quoted for additional coverage sounded good enough that I am in the process of getting pictures, and ser#s of all my equipment. Don't remember exactly how much,less than $100 year, policy is to be renewed in Nov. so I'll take list and pics then. I am using the value on forum prices, whereas a Nash400 goes for $300/$375,etc is what I'm basing the value.They are really good to work with on claims, had a lightening strike a couple years ago, they came through very satisfactorily..Coverage is at today's (time of loss) market value of item.

Bill

Tommy Shown · Post by **Tommy Shown** » 28 Sep 2009 6:16 am

I played at a little country church, the pastor had insurance so it didn't bother me to leave my gear there after services. And when I was a deputy sheriff, I used do extra duty (moon lighting) at a couple of churches in downtown Baton Rouge. one of them was a Methodist church. The preacher runs an ad on TV locally, where he says their hearts, minds, and doors are always open. Funny thing thing happened after the ad ran.They had a DVD player stolen from them.

Jeff Evans · Post by **Jeff Evans** » 28 Sep 2009 8:22 am

. . . I used to have an MSA that I hated. Sounded terrible, wouldn't stay in tune, couldn't get anyone to buy it. So I broke into a Catholic church in Houston and left it there.

A Houston Solution?

That'll be 47 "Hail Marys" . . . (or you could just run a little slant route.)

Bill Ford · Post by **Bill Ford** » 28 Sep 2009 9:21 am

Cal Sharp wrote:
BTW, I used to have an MSA that I hated. Sounded terrible, wouldn't stay in tune, couldn't get anyone to buy it. So I broke into a Catholic church in Houston and left it there.

Cal,
Next time you have a "throw away", call me, I'll come get it.

Bill

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