Is this a Permanent ?

Bobby Burns · Post by **Bobby Burns** » 14 Sep 2009 5:34 pm

Mark, I realize that, and I try to make sure everyone knows when a guess is a guess, and opinions are just opinions, but I'd much rather learn about the guitars than to argue about who is right and who is wrong.
By the way, Are there any old Sho-Bud perms left that Bobbe hasn't owned?

Jussi Huhtakangas · Post by **Jussi Huhtakangas** » 14 Sep 2009 8:03 pm

Stan Schober wrote:
John Billings wrote:Jussi,
I believe Bobbe's middle name is "Kuhtakangas."
I thought it was Kahuna, and the main reason he took up steel guitar...

Well, I'm not going to tell you what "kahunas" mean in our language and I sure hope Bobbe doesn't show them to you!

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 15 Sep 2009 7:35 am

John Billings, No number on your guitar is right. Many early Sho-Buds have no serial number. Even after Sho-Buds did get numbers, they didn't really mean much.

I have always loved the wood in your guitar.
Nice to see you are keeping it in great condition.

I have a 60 Sho-Bud that I play all over Nashville now that is nowhere near that nice, but there is something about it that I truly love.

Let me know when you need your money back for the one you have!

Bobbe

Ken Byng · Post by **Ken Byng** » 15 Sep 2009 10:45 am

BobbeSeymour wrote:Jussi, the name is Kenneth, kinda bland you may think at first, until you realize that I'm named after and related to that great english sea warrior of the forteenth century, "Kenneth the Great"! (or was it Rodney the great, or Brucie? I can't remember,,,,,

Mr Seymour!! I will have you that there is nothing bland about the name Kenneth. A very old English name with a lot of heritage.

Actually Kenneth means handsome. (Honestly) That lets me out then.

James Fleming · Post by **James Fleming** » 15 Sep 2009 10:46 am

Isn't it amazing how we become jaded in our ares of expertise. This is not my area of knowledge, but I too have become Jaded.

This thread reminded me once again how important it is to look at everything through fresh eyes.

I research the history of, and collect American Sporting Collectibles. I have done this for 23 years. I became sooo damn smart I never even carried my reference books with me. Why should I, after all I am considered an expert. I'll just rely on the knowledge I have stored in my head

Last year I had the opportunity to buy a very rare item. After examining it I determined it was a very good example of someone trying to copy a Victor Glodo duck call(circa 1860). It was offered to me for $1500. As I considered this "an unknown", I passed.
I was wrong... the call was right... it just sold for $14,500
I am not quite as smart anymore!

Bobby Burns made a great observation in this post.

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 15 Sep 2009 12:53 pm

Now here is a thread with some very great guys, and all being very nice too, am I on the wrong forum?

Ken, now I know why I was named "Kenneth".

Robert K.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 15 Sep 2009 5:28 pm

Leave it to Bobbe! He built that one knowing he'd fool somebody with it someday. (It sure fooled me!) I didn't remember seeing a permanent with no "shark fine, or with rounded corners on the endplates, or with no adjustments on the pillow blocks.

Then I looked at some old pictures of Buddy, and one of his permanents also had rounded corners.

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 15 Sep 2009 6:12 pm

Robert K.? I went to junior high school with a Bobbie Kay. She was purdy.

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 16 Sep 2009 10:05 am

Ken Byng wrote:
BobbeSeymour wrote:Jussi, the name is Kenneth, kinda bland you may think at first, until you realize that I'm named after and related to that great english sea warrior of the forteenth century, "Kenneth the Great"! (or was it Rodney the precious, or Brucie the brazing stallion. I can't remember,,,,,
Mr Seymour!! I will have you that there is nothing bland about the name Kenneth. A very old English name with a lot of heritage.

Actually Kenneth means handsome. (Honestly) That lets me out then.

Jussi Huhtakangas · Post by **Jussi Huhtakangas** » 16 Sep 2009 11:15 am

BobbeSeymour wrote:
Ken Byng wrote:
BobbeSeymour wrote:Jussi, the name is Kenneth, kinda bland you may think at first, until you realize that I'm named after and related to that great english sea warrior of the forteenth century, "Kenneth the Great"! (or was it Rodney the precious, or Brucie the brazing stallion. I can't remember,,,,,
Mr Seymour!! I will have you that there is nothing bland about the name Kenneth. A very old English name with a lot of heritage.

Actually Kenneth means handsome. (Honestly) That lets me out then.

Hmm, then there's Ken The Barbie too...

David Kellogg · Post by **David Kellogg** » 18 Sep 2009 10:17 am

Man that guitar is getting up there in price.

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 18 Sep 2009 12:07 pm

It would be a deal at half the price!

Lee Jeffriess · Post by **Lee Jeffriess** » 19 Sep 2009 11:06 am

A little off topic, but wasnt Bobby Garret's guitar the first D10?.
Bobbe is that one lost in the mists of time?, sure was pretty wood.
I was just listening to BG and BE play speedin west, I keep forgetting how great Bobby was and Buddie has Jimmy Bryant's phrasing down.
Lee

Chris Lucker · Post by **Chris Lucker** » 19 Sep 2009 11:50 am

I love BG's version of "The Lady is a Tramp."

Eugene Cole · Post by **Eugene Cole** » 19 Sep 2009 12:20 pm

Lis Chrucker wrote:I love BG's version of "The Lady is a Tramp."

"BG"; that would be the Buddy Guy recording which was only released on Edison cylinder.

Am I correct? <BIG>

Chris Lucker · Post by **Chris Lucker** » 19 Sep 2009 12:31 pm

Jeez.

Buddy Greco.

I can't resist an opportunity to make a Buddy Greco joke.

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 19 Sep 2009 2:02 pm

Lee Jefferies, Mr. Garrett's Sho-Bud was one of the very first D-10s. Birdseye, red pickups, with his name on the front written like his signature, but the guitar was built much larger than other following ten string Sho-Buds. It was built the size of a present day 11 or 12 string D-10.

I remember how proud he was of that guitar, he even carried pictures of it around to show everybody all the time. I still have the one he gave me of it before I saw it in person.

I miss Bobby greatley, he was another wonderful friend I have lost in this biz. But I'm sure there are many of you in this boat,,,,,,,,,

Your friend,
Bobbe Seymour

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 19 Sep 2009 2:08 pm

Lee, the 9th one is the one I helped build with Shot (and little David!)

Jeff Evans · Post by **Jeff Evans** » 19 Sep 2009 2:08 pm

. . . the size of a present day 11 or 12 string D-10.

?

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 19 Sep 2009 2:10 pm

Bobbe, how many guitars were made with the "sawed-off" keyhead?

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 19 Sep 2009 2:50 pm

Mine was the first, and Buddy had at least one guitar like this, and I'm sure a couple of other players asked Shot to do this little mod, but most folks loved it and had to have it.

John, I'm having David and Harry Jackson build me a '63 Madison model the exact coloring as yours.
Birdseye body with black necks, should be great!

Bobbe

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 19 Sep 2009 3:16 pm

Bobbe, I hope you'll send me. or post here, some pics when it's done. The reason I was curious as to how many guitars you guys made with the truncated keyhead was, well, there have been threads in the past asking "Is this a ---?" Although everything on some of these guitars just screamed ShoBud, the keyheads were always the deciding factor in saying "NO!"
I gotta make a trip down to visit my old buddy JL Myers, audio engineer, and oldest friend. The last time I got to visit you was when you were in Goodletsville. I showed you my Kline. Your comment was something like, "Joe has taken this archaic system, and made it a work of art." BWAAAA!

Wayne Franco · Post by **Wayne Franco** » 19 Sep 2009 3:23 pm

If this is a permanent does that imply that a temporary was also made?

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 19 Sep 2009 3:28 pm

Ha! Ha!, I loved that!

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 19 Sep 2009 3:29 pm

John, YES! You need to be here!

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