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Bill Hankey
From: Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 3:17 am
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Have you ever been subjected to nickel and diming as a steel guitarist? For years I had lived with the notion that a certain protection from nickel and diming was a certainty, once I became proficient at playing the steel guitar. I should have known better, knowing that first impressions are the sources of poor judgment calls. The commonalities of living in a fantasy can easily last a lifetime. 
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Gary Lee Gimble
From: Fredericksburg, VA.
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 3:47 am
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once I became proficient at playing the steel guitar. |
This of course, was announced in your "Arrived" thread.
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I should have known better |
Congrats, you threw in the towel....
Never had that opportunity...
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living in a fantasy can easily last a lifetime. |
Will last while you continue to post here....a fantasy that is...
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Bill Hankey
From: Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 5:02 am
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Gary,
Each member of this forum shouldn't be restricted from stating a situation that from a logical standpoint, points to a situation that is forebodingly reprehensible. Your superficial nagging is merely food for thought in this struggle to achieve responsible goals. Don't get me wrong, you have ample company lining up to deliver those belittling assaults on a few suggestions that I've "arrived". Really, the magnitude of the statement has gone unappreciated since the concept of reaching a level of playing that satifies my hopes and aspirations. I can't imagine anyone from my city of Pittsfield, MA so affected by the music produced on the steel guitar. When I "throw the towel in", it will be for other reasons that are not connected in any way to succeeding in the pursuit of playing the pedal steel guitar. Your very modest postings trigger a slight resentment, when considering your numbers do not match your zealous nature. 
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Georg Sørtun
From: Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 5:25 am Re: Nickel And Diming
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Bill Hankey wrote: |
Have you ever been subjected to nickel and diming as a steel guitarist? |
No.
Bill Hankey wrote: |
The commonalities of living in a fantasy can easily last a lifetime.  |
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Bill Hankey
From: Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 5:51 am
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Georg,
I have only to draw from the analogous settings from which one individual who single-handedly buffaloed entire continents, to assuage "jocular" pitches that become unsavory through continuity. |
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Georg Sørtun
From: Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 6:12 am
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Bill,
You being the expert here; I can only suggest you continue trying to draw whatever you like from wherever you think you got a chance to find it.
(Sorry, the rest got lost in translation...) |
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Jack Dougherty
From: Spring Hill, Florida, USA
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 6:13 am
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Bill....Bill...Bill...
I have spent the better part of my life flying sophisticated airplanes; pouring over endless technical data just to keep my level of proficiency to the highest level. Reading your posts far surpass any level of difficult data I have ever read.
My feeling is a team of the highest magnitude of archaeologist versed in all the worlds known languages finding your post a thousand years from now would scratch their collective heads and say "What the hell was he talking about"
I have purposely stayed away from your posts for the same reasons. Not for personal reasons, but for health. My doctor told me not to do anything that causes pain.
Bill, Your help would be greatly appreciated if you could help me not to feel pain.
The beauty of the steel is the simplest of passages can bring much joy to the listener. I would hope you don't play the steel the way you write. If you do, IMHO you have wasted precious time. Then I might agree you have "nickle and dimed" yourself.
As always your observer from afar,
JD _________________ There is no such thing as too many steels!!
Emmons P/P 8/7 Strings....whatever I have.....Picks..mixed...Bars...one of four..but I like the Bullet Bar
Walker Stereo Steel Amp
TC M1 XL
Peavey Nashville 400. Fox Mod
Various sundries and toys.. |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 6:37 am
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Have you ever been subjected to nickel and diming as a steel guitarist? |
Only on payday. |
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Bill Hankey
From: Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 6:44 am
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Jack,
I sincerely hope that somewhere in the chuckles of the future archaeologists, a moment of contemplation comes winging in, when they discover that I refused to join the ranks of disbelievers.
I have a homemade steel guitar set up here that will ease your pain. If you are ever in Western MA, stop in for your first treatment.
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Bill Hankey
From: Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 7:32 am
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I think keeping the flivvers on macadam roadways is relative to survival of a thread. Why are viable threads of late getting shoved down gravelly side roads? |
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Stuart Legg
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 8:09 am
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In what way? |
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Les Green
From: Jefferson City, MO, R.I.P.
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 8:19 am
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I'm totally "Lost In The Ozone Again"........... _________________ Les Green
73 MSA D10 8&4, 74 MSA S10 3&5, Legrande II 8&9, Fender Squier 6 string, Genesis III, Peavey 1000 |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 8:44 am
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I think keeping the flivvers on macadam roadways is relative to survival of a thread. Why are viable threads of late getting shoved down gravelly side roads? |
Maybe because that's where they belong in the first place. |
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Danny Bates
From: Fresno, CA. USA
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 8:45 am
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Hi Bill,
It may help if I begin my discussion by expelling some innocuous verbage in order to better illustrate my point: Which unfortunately most believe is located centrally on top of my head!
I am doing everything I can to embrace the cause of your self-determination and I certainly recognize your leading role as a reknown poster here on this forum. Hopefully I will obtain a clearer understanding of what we steel pickers "for whom the quintessential struggle is an encompassing liberation movement against the totality of any steel guitarists C6 neck seemingly unobtainable careerism". If we briefly prescind...
Disclaimer: This message has been brought to you by the Department of Blinding Obviousness.
What might not be so obvious, however, is that the really interesting thing about all this is not that your use of words like "Gravelly Side Roads's" are driving under the influence of verbal denominationalism.
There are lots of weepy, wimpy flower children out there who are always PM'ing me whining that I'm always being too harsh in my replies to your posts. They don't understand how much I admire the poetry in your posts. Basically, IMHO, they represent insanity masquerading as progress.
Bill, you must try to understand that most of us shrink from your posts like a vampire shrinks from a crucifix. You'd be more likely to get us to understand your posts when you keep things simple. Like when you used the layman's words "Gravelly Side Roads".
For us to admit that we present ourselves as country music purists lamenting the infusion of non-politically motivated methods of pedagogy and analysis into a higher musical education, "Gravelly Side Roads" is eloquent in your denunciation of your modern verbal scholarship, claiming verbally it favors us country music hungry pickers . And here we have the ultimate irony because if your usage of words like "Gravelly Side Roads" is really going to make an emotional impact then you should also include a rational argument.
Of course, I'm generalizing a little here. But that's only because those big two-dollar words script well and (of course) rhetoric comes gushing forth with very little provocation.
You know how we are: To know, to understand, and not to act, is an egregious sin of omission. It is the sin of silence. It is the sin of letting us steel pickers keep a close eye on those who look like they might think an unapproved thought. Bill, it's somewhat tricky to examine your worldview from the perspective of your axiology (values) and epistemology (ways of knowing), especially since us steel pickers tend to ignore non-musical connections and we are reluctant to analyze the ideological positions you have... or to treat a poet (such as yourself) seriously.
Keep up the good work!
Your Buddy,
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Joe Casey
From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 9:22 am
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Oh Boy,hang onto your Fedora....  |
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Danny Bates
From: Fresno, CA. USA
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 9:28 am
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My Fedora is just like this one... of course it's only there to hide the point on top of my head
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Robby Springfield
From: Viola, AR, USA
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 9:51 am Re: Nickel And Diming
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Bill Hankey wrote: |
knowing that first impressions are the sources of poor judgment calls.  |
Not knowing for sure just what your getting at but I’ll respectfully disagree with you on this statement. First impressions are very significant in many ways. The most trouble that I have found myself in is when I disregarded the leading of first impressions. There have been cases where it took years and years to play out and I’ve stood alone on many decisions. Was it worth it? The truth is always worth the pain of endurance. I’m probably going to lose some here, but I hope not.
For those who have given their life to Jesus Christ, there is a leading, which comes from the Holy Spirit. He is NEVER wrong! Just like any good earthly father, our Father in heaven is interested in the very smallest parts of our lives and is always there to guide us…as in first impressions. The problem comes in, and I will speak for myself, when I don’t listen to that leading or when everything about my senses/natural man thoughts, screams that the first impression or leading of the Holy Spirit is wrong. I have missed that leading many times and found myself to be wrong, but not one first impression that I left my flesh out of has ever been wrong. Why? It doesn’t come from me…it comes from God.
It was Sunday anyway…sermons are legal. And this one is over. _________________ Robby
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Gary Lee Gimble
From: Fredericksburg, VA.
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 10:02 am
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Danny, sharpen your point  |
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Danny Bates
From: Fresno, CA. USA
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 10:27 am
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Gary, I have a girl that does all my shaping with a ball peen hammer.
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Dick Wood
From: Springtown Texas, USA
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 10:34 am
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If the phone isn't ringing and you have no jobs lined up,then those first impressions may mean something otherwise play as well as you can and always attempt to better yourself along the way.
Bill,is the phone ringing? _________________ Cops aren't paid much so I steel at night. |
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Gary Lee Gimble
From: Fredericksburg, VA.
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 10:50 am
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Will she out source, headed east?
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is the phone ringing? |
For sure, his Internet connection hasn't been down  |
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Bill Hankey
From: Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 13 Sep 2009 11:29 am
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Forumites,
Yes, my phone has been ringing. I must break away for today. There is a band at the ITAM LODGE in Pittsfield, MA tonight. They start early! 7:00 to 11:00 P.M. - I'll be cruising on the forum for comments in the morning... strictly for the purpose of convening and implementing a continuation of the "Nickeling-and-Diming" thread, associated with life as a steel guitarist.  |
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Bill Hankey
From: Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2009 4:02 am
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Really and truly, should anyone for any reason find reason to trash another's keenness of observations, by making crude statements that translate into; "You don't know what you are talking about", it could create a vexatious response. I mean to say, it would be something like.. What is that thing, do you play it? Of course I'm referring to the steel guitar, who's owner has been subjected to countless "Nickel-And-Dime" verbal attacks. Anyone making such claims that no such high-toned ignorance exists, please come forward, as if to speak.
A lot of vexatious caterwauling over who said what, can be avoided by practicing keeping well out of earshot and away from chronic babblers. One heaping helping of exaggerated nonsense, invariably should keep a listener on track with reliable hearsay.
How does one deal with a mouth that has cancelled the ability to form a partnership with ears in the same skull? 
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Wayne Franco
From: silverdale, WA. USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2009 8:54 am Bill
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Well said  |
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Bill Hankey
From: Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2009 11:07 am
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W Franco,
I wouldn't hesitate to show my appreciation, but how does a recipient of such a broad statement comply, when there are two possible meanings that develop from the brevity of such a statement. I'll say thank you, hoping that the two words reflected a positive note. I am aware that without specifically providing additional indicative responses, I'm at a loss to not be sure. |
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