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Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 10:33 am |
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My thoughts on this post are simple:
Many posts have appeared where Forumites boast and brag about this or that on their favorite guitar.
BUT......... Let's focus on one brand at a time, a single product and let's find out WHY you wouldn't purchase one of 'that one'. Be specific....state what feature lures you in; or, chases you away.
It could be productive for those in the business.
Players usually identify an instrument's failings in fairly short order. The player should be the final word in what a g'tar can/cannot deliver.
What say you? |
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Alan James
From:
San Francisco, CA, USA
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 11:41 am
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| In my opinion, this appears to be flame bait whose main purpose is to cause and watch a train wreck. I find myself growing weary with builder bashing. |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 11:45 am
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What's this a witch hunt? 
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 11:45 am
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| ha ha...yeah..no offense ray, cause i like you, but next we'd have to go to 'what we don't care for' about each individual forum member...and i don't think i'm quite ready for how much people hate me! |
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 12:57 pm
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I always play them unplugged at first.
If it's a 'whiner', I'm out of there. |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 2:48 pm
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I won't by a brand that uses cotter pins to hold the rods to the bellcranks.
I had one once and making changes was a drag (it was NOT a Mullen... I have never owned a Mullen but I think Mullen Steels look and sound great).
I won't buy one that uses E-clips to hold the rods to the bell cranks, either.
Changing the rod position in the bellcrank (and/or the ability to quickly change the copedant in any way) needs to be super easy. |
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Eric Philippsen
From:
Central Florida USA
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 3:44 pm
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| I'm guessing this is a little off the subject. Sorry, but I thought RIchard made a good point. That is, when it comes to guitars, steels and their relatives, playing them unplugged first can be an ear and eye opener. I do that a lot and am often nothing short of amazed at what I hear. |
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Don Brown, Sr.
From:
New Jersey
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 3:57 pm
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I wouldn't buy anything I didn't like.
Why? Because I wouldn't like it.  |
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Ray Montee
From:
Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 7:16 pm Sorry that some of you can't see the merit in my post.......
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No where did I suggest we black-ball or flame any manufacturer...... or start any kind of a range war.
My point is simple, and YOU should be able to catch that much....
I never purchased a Sierra pedal steel, not because I tho't they were inferior in any way or for any other reason than I personally found it difficult to pick the proper strings due to the angular change of the fret board just ahead of the pickups. This gave me a visual allusion that I've never heard anyone else comment about but to me, it was a big 'negative'.
Rickenbabher Bakelites with their BLACK necks and metching frets are a problem to play in a dark club. |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Jeremy Threlfall
From:
now in Western Australia
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 7:50 pm
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As I am in the antipodes
and I have heard similar comments from our Canadian bretheren
I would be influenced by the dealer's preparedness and ability to provide adequate service outside the US |
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Casey Lowmiller
From:
Kansas
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Posted 4 Aug 2009 8:18 pm
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I wouldn't buy a single neck with less than a 3X2 setup. Seems like there is a lot of music to be had with a 3X2.
I know that you can take a 3X1 Maverick and hot-rod it...but I don't have the tools or the know-how.
I wouldn't buy another Session 500. I have one and dearly love it...but it stays in one spot. However, if I came across one for $0 - $200 I'm sure I would buy it, they really are the Cadillac of steel amps.
Also, I wouldn't buy used gear from a forum member with a bad reputation. In the past, there have been a few guys that seemed kind of sketchy. For the most part, I'm convinced that steel players are some of the best people to deal with.
Casey
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Joe Drivdahl
From:
Montana, USA
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Posted 5 Aug 2009 12:09 am
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Ray,
I probably wouldn't purchase this one.
At least I wouldn't pay an arm and a leg for it.
Joe |
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Scott Shipley
From:
The Ozark Mountains
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Posted 5 Aug 2009 12:24 am
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I wouldn't buy this one because it sounds like cr*p.
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Jim Park
From:
Carson City, Nv
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Posted 5 Aug 2009 7:13 am Guitars that I woundn't buy
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I have a quirk about end plates being angled or anything other than 90 degrees from the body............ I dont know why.......BUT!!!!! I almost bought a G2 at the 2007 ISGC. Crazy Huh?????
But really..I think this Guitar thing is getting WAAAAYYY out of hand, there isn't a guitar being built today that is unusable for the purpose that it was built for, AND I believe that the builders of modern steel guitars are providing a wonderful selection that allows a buyer to really get what he is looking for in a guitar. Lastly....HOW COULD WE HATE YOU CHRIS????? You always provide a perspective that is worth considering.....BUT maybe we hate you cause you play really good .YAAAAA thats it.
Jim |
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Roger Crawford
From:
Griffin, GA USA
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Posted 5 Aug 2009 7:52 am
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| I always enjoy what Chris has to say. He offers his opinion based on his experience. I agree with most of what he says. Other times, we have different opinions. That's no reason to have hard feelings. |
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 5 Aug 2009 11:48 am
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| Well, I sure wouldn't buy a $12,000 steel, cause I don't have $12,000... I wouldn't even buy two $6,000 steels! If you wanna make another thread about "What I wouldn't play even if it was FREE" my list would be very, ummm, non-existent. |
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Rich Peterson
From:
Moorhead, MN
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Posted 6 Aug 2009 9:35 am
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| I wouldn't buy a steel that was too heavy for my old back, Nor one that I couldn't change copedent easily. |
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Stuart Legg
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Posted 6 Aug 2009 10:20 am
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| Why worry, most Steel players are a the age where all their decisions are made by AARP |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 6 Aug 2009 12:05 pm
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I tend to shy away from the common ones. Right now, that would be Emms and Zums. (It's just not in my nature to be "mainstream".)  |
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Stephen Silver
From:
Asheville, NC
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Posted 6 Aug 2009 2:39 pm
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I wouldn't buy a homemade body steel with Emmons parts and a chrome Emmons logo. It's not an Emmons, it's a homemade steel with Emmons parts.
S
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 6 Aug 2009 3:19 pm
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I wouldn't buy another Carter Starter. I bought one many years ago and it's been in its case for most of that time. Recently I fitted Emmons pedals, while at the same time moving them three inches to the right. Then I fitted an Emmons pickup. I plan to do something about that awful Formica. But no matter what improvements I make to it, it will always be a budget model.  |
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