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Topic: Scale course that describes how to |
Sherman Willden
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Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA
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Posted 6 May 2009 5:57 pm |
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Is there a course that takes a scale and then shows ten or twelve things you can do with that scale? Maybe something like "Here is an G scale starting on the third fret which uses the AB pedals. Now here are twelve things you can do with that scale. Here is a C scale starting with the AB pedals on the third fret. Now here are twelve things you can perform using that scale." and so on using AF and E.
Maybe something like that doesn't exist.
Thank you;
Sherman |
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Calvin Walley
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colorado city colorado, USA
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Posted 6 May 2009 9:06 pm
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Sherman
the only thing i can think of is Jeffs "just play the melody" its all about the "C" scale, but the only complete song in it is "mansion on the hill " its done 2 different ways , and there are examples of "take these chains" " blues eyes cryin" "cold cold heart" and "release me"
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Ken Metcalf
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San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 7 May 2009 5:35 am
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Joe Wright has an Excel program that shows all scales and then changes with the pedals and levers...
As far as what you do with them... that is a different story.
I have to take small parts of scales, work on them, and then work on connecting them together.
It is a lot to absorb even on a NORMAL instrument, #$%^&*!! Stupid PSG 
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Marc Friedland
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Fort Collins, CO
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Posted 7 May 2009 9:30 am
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If we’re only talking about major scale single note melodies, it makes absolutely no difference where you play the scale, because the notes are exactly the same. The order of what notes follow other notes in the song, might make it easier for an individual to play it in one position as compared to another. But I think that primarily depends on how practiced and fluid each steeler is in executing at different string grips and various positions up and down the neck. I might choose to play a particular passage on strings 4 & 6 with the B & C pedals because I’m practiced and relatively comfortable there, but someone else may choose to play the exact same notes in another position, because it’s easier for them or because they think it just sounds better played elsewhere. I can’t speak on behalf of the masters of the instrument, but I imagine they’re quite comfortable and confident on most all of the variable positions on the neck of the steel guitar.
A good example of this is the instrumental song that was discussed a few months back here on the Forum, Walk Don’t Run. You can find most all the notes of the entire song on the 3rd fret, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s easy for everyone to play it there. Even some seasoned steelers found sections of this song slightly awkward to play on the pedal steel as compared to the 6-string guitar, because the progression of notes doesn’t follow what they normally practice or perform in their “usual” routine.
If we’re talking about playing specific harmonies together or licks & riffs, that’s a different story. In that case there may be only 1 or 2 positions where it makes sense to play them, even if they can be found elsewhere as well.
The bottom line is ---
If there are a 100,000 songs out there in the key of “G” that use the notes found in the Major Scale, you can play every one of those songs in every position that you’re comfortable playing the G Major scale on the pedal steel guitar, with pedals, without pedals, knee levers, no knee levers, staying on the same strings, staying on the same fret, or jumping around, etc.
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 7 May 2009 3:13 pm Re: Scale course that describes how to
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| Sherman Willden wrote: |
| Is there a course that takes a scale and then shows ten or twelve things you can do with that scale? Maybe something like "Here is an G scale starting on the third fret which uses the AB pedals. Now here are twelve things you can do with that scale. |
I'm terrible at music theory, but here's my take...
Keep in mind that most songs (unlike the Christmas song "Joy To The World") don't contain complete scales. Partial scales are used, inverted, and twisted about, to keep them from sounding like just ordinary ascending or descending musical scales.
We may practice full scales just to learn them, hear what they sound like, and learn where to best get the notes. But what we do when we actually play music is to shorten and rearrange them, and then use them to give variety and interest to the music. |
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Bryan Daste
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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